"The Time Is Magic" - guitar tweakers unite!!

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"The Time Is Magic" - guitar tweakers unite!!

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for this one (title track of the new album) i decided to go all direct source, no microphones.

this is the weirdo of the bunch!


recording setup:

Sonar pro edition 6.0

i have (2) mic pres, a ART DPS with (2) tube pres and a digital convertor in it, and a A Designs Audio MP-1 class A tube mic preamp (mono).
i route either of these thru a DBX MC-6 compressor, and either directly into the ART convertor, or to the soundcard analog inputs, with conversion occurring at the card.

Drums: Sony Acid, for drum tracks. i use real drums whenever i can get a drummer to work for free!
LOL

guitar rig:
for this song i used a Weber Mass Lite and Palmer PDI-09 on my mesa mark2b, with a avatar cab doing monitor duty.

this is for all you guys who are looking for a 'quiet' way to capture full bore tube amp sounds into Sonar, without getting evicted or divorced.



masslite.jpg

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/masslite.htm


it works pretty well..

here's how i use it:

i go Mesa boogie Mark IIb 60 watt tube head /speaker out (8 or 4 ohm, it doesn't matter) into the Palmer PDI-09.

pdi09-big.jpg


so, boogie speaker out into palmer 'INPUT', and then back out via the 'THRU', and that goes to the Weber, for attenuation.

From the Weber, 'speaker out' to whatever cab i want to use (i have a demeter isolation cabinet available, if i want to play loud, the celestion greenback cab if i want to monitor 'open air'.)

idea here is, if i want to record in the headphones, i can attenuate the piss out of the boogie, put it in the demeter, and you can't hear almost anything.....
if i want to play loud, and play along with my monitors blasting my backing tracks, i can use my closed back 1x12 with the celestion, or into the demeter, and play as loud as i want..
the palmer doesn't know the difference, only the weber comes into play, and since i'm not micing, there's no bleed over from the guitar cab and the monitors......

so, the 'BAL. OUT' on the palmer, is an XLR out, that goes to my mic preamp, digital convertor, and into SONAR.
the switches on the top of the palmer give me line level attenuation, and 3 different 'cab and mic' sounds.
i like the NORMAL setting the best. It's all passive, the weber and the palmer, so i'm not introducing any kind of electrical noise at either of these two units.

bass rig:
i use either a Carvin LB70, or a Ibanez Micro short scale...
run it into both a sansamp bass di and the boogie setup with the palmer, set for bass tone.
i blend the two signals together, to a single buss, and compress the whole on mixdown.


guitar rig:
gtrrig1uu4.jpg


in the clip, it shows the tone you can get in Position #4 on the vintage white strat, with a Bill Lawrence 500L Humbucker and a middle position L280 pickup together, along with a Q filter on the tone control, that varies the inductance on the pickup(s) (it shows position #2 in the pic)


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I got so caught up in the bass I had to listen twice. That is some seriously great tone and playing on everything. Not to take anything away from the guitars - but I'm in love with the bass sound. man again - I don't know how I keep missing your posts.
 
love it... but the gtr is too low. Make it dominate the killer bass.

Good stuff gets buried, because if you don't post like a crazy man here nowadays, it sinks to the bottom. Believe me... my stuff don't get comments anymore, cause I stopped circulating around here regulary years back.... but my stuff aint goofy great either!!

Some serious ears and chops... just to shy on the gtr volume.
 
chuck
thanks for checking it out after all!
i appreciate the comments...
the bass line, that was really fun to play.
once i figured out how i wanted it to 'bounce', it was pretty easy.

i was thinking...... stevie wonder bass lines
they swing a bit, but push too.

thanks again.......


Mixmkr
thanks for listening.
i don't think the guitar is too low..
very even playback on all the systems i've checked on......

i don't know, it's always a subjective decision, and certain 'vibes' need different levels of track mix, i guess i heard the bass running the show here.
it's more about 'butt moving', and less about 'wanking'.
LOL

i don't mind bumping my stuff.....
seems to be the only way to get any feedback, so it's cool.
thanks for commenting.
 
alright zarkwan!
you're dealin' with some stone cold groove here......
thanks for checking it out
 
i'm sitting here with a big feckin smile on my face...this was rad
 
duesenberg

thanks man.
glad you're radded out.
appreciate the listen.....
 
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