The Time I Took

[true-eurt]

True--Are you sure about that cymbal? I don't mind it. Just a different flavour for that part of the song. I think that they've been around long enough now, and everyone's heard them a few billion times, that only the most vintage-retro-snob-connoisseur type would scoff and frown upon it. Really we should see what another drummer or two might have to say.

Am I sure? God, you would have to ask that....now I must give it deeper thought!!! Oh no!!

Yes, I AM sure about what I said. That is *I* though, and my not-so-humble opinion. I love the sound, and I would love to hear it just a tad more prominient in the mix. But...I am also the one always saying "turn up the bass!!", even when there isn't one.

 

[Nakatira]

Thanks, Naka. Steve really wrote a great song and the little parts sort of wrote themselves. Out of curiosity, since we weren't aiming for a retro sounding piece specifically, could you point out what makes this song sound 70s to your ears?

-Casey

Everything about it sounds retro to me, there is also a lot of beatles in it.
The drums sounds outstanding, and very 70`s to me, the bass is very 70`s almost a little Chriss Squire, The guitars sound late 70`s Kinda like Rush`s guitars.
The arrangment is very 70`s to me as well, same with the harmony parts.
Its not of this time.
its defenitive retro.

And when I say its retro, I also mean that as a compliment, while you guys dont try to make it that way, but you end up with it it naturally, I really struggle to make my stuff as 70`s as I can.

so great work, I showed the song to a few of my retro music lovin friends and they all agree, its an instant hit, and its very pro sounding.

great work.

 

[Incanus]

Thanks Naka. I guess there are a lot of 70's elements in this song, and I can't disagree with your points about that. But if you hear a little Chris Squire in there, you must be talking tone, because that dude flat out wails the tar out of me on the bass. I simply cannot hang with the likes of him.

Now that I've been listening to this one for a few days, I think that, perhaps, the drums are just a teeny, tiny bit too loud. I'm talking like .5 db or something. Not really sure about that. Another possibility is that it's just the toms that are a tad too loud to the rest of the drums.

Also now, when listening in headphones, I clearly hear some distortion or clipping in the whole mix at the end of the third chorus. Specifically during the words, "remember the way". But whenever I play it out loud, I can't hear it. Curious. Whatever it is I hope it's not on the original tracks.

 

[Supercreep]

Thanks Naka. I guess there are a lot of 70's elements in this song, and I can't disagree with your points about that. But if you hear a little Chris Squire in there, you must be talking tone, because that dude flat out wails the tar out of me on the bass. I simply cannot hang with the likes of him.

Now that I've been listening to this one for a few days, I think that, perhaps, the drums are just a teeny, tiny bit too loud. I'm talking like .5 db or something. Not really sure about that. Another possibility is that it's just the toms that are a tad too loud to the rest of the drums.

Also now, when listening in headphones, I clearly hear some distortion or clipping in the whole mix at the end of the third chorus. Specifically during the words, "remember the way". But whenever I play it out loud, I can't hear it. Curious. Whatever it is I hope it's not on the original tracks.

Meh, the vocals are easily retracked, but I don't think we'll have to. The last two choruses have that distortion you mention... I think they're just a little hot in the master and they'll clean up when we back them off a few db. I can see backing the toms off a little, although they don't seem to be stepping on anything. I like the snare right where it is.

Mark Searle called today and will be taking his strat to this next week sometime. We should get the mix sorted out before then. I think you guys are going to like Mark.

-C

 

[Dogman]

Whatever you guys do with it, cool tune. You do unique, yet very straight forward music. (does that even make sense???). I find some elements dating to The Beatles, maybe some who, and early Pop/ Rock, yet some modern sounds also. Nice drums sounds, and distorted guitar. You and Rami need to do a double bill. The "What Is Shit Hot On HR.com tour". You travel the country, and get other members in the areas you go to to play also. It would be extra cool. Oh, and I AM drunk.....

 

[invisiblenemies]

I thought this thread was going to be about the time you ate a whole sheet of acid while running from the cops and woke up three days later, naked, in your grandma's backyard making out with a snowman.

You're silly.

 

[Supercreep]

I thought this thread was going to be about the time you ate a whole sheet of acid while running from the cops and woke up three days later, naked, in your grandma's backyard making out with a snowman.

You're silly.

No, that was Crazy from the (liquid)Sunshine.

And that snowman looked like a hot chick from the back.

 

[Supercreep]

Really we should see what another drummer or two might have to say.

I wonder who that could be?


Hmmmm.......

 

[Incanus]

Mark Searle called today and will be taking his strat to this next week sometime. We should get the mix sorted out before then. I think you guys are going to like Mark. -C

Oh, baby!!! This is real good news. If this guy played a 2 note solo on this, it would still be 100 times better than anything Casey and I could do if we had the entire remainder of our lives to work on it. Straight out.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I am excited about this. Awesome!!!!!

 

[K-dub]

Anyone remember a group from the 70's named "Charlie"? The vocals are reminiscent of them ... almost psuedo "Stix" ... in a way.

Nice production on this ...

The harmony vocals are slightly hot comparitively to the main vocal (at times), but the recording is clean and defined.

Great crunch on the guitar too.

Terrific job here. Well written, well performed, well recorded.

I enjoyed it!

Kev

 

[Nakatira]

Thanks Naka. I guess there are a lot of 70's elements in this song, and I can't disagree with your points about that. But if you hear a little Chris Squire in there, you must be talking tone, because that dude flat out wails the tar out of me on the bass. I simply cannot hang with the likes of him.

Now that I've been listening to this one for a few days, I think that, perhaps, the drums are just a teeny, tiny bit too loud. I'm talking like .5 db or something. Not really sure about that. Another possibility is that it's just the toms that are a tad too loud to the rest of the drums.

Also now, when listening in headphones, I clearly hear some distortion or clipping in the whole mix at the end of the third chorus. Specifically during the words, "remember the way". But whenever I play it out loud, I can't hear it. Curious. Whatever it is I hope it's not on the original tracks.

Its defenitly the tone, but I can also hear elements at around 2:07 that to me is very Chriss Squire, and thorugh out the riff, the bass is sorta blasting through, it reminds me a bit of his playing on The Yes album. Wich I really really love


I Think one of the defentie factors of the 70`s drums are loud sounding toms, and being quite dry does also help, so I think your drum sound is just the sound I`m trying to obtain. with various luck.

One question; I think your vox sound is just out of this world.
care to reveal the chain?

again great work guys, top shelf stuff.

 

[Supercreep]

Its defenitly the tone, but I can also hear elements at around 2:07 that to me is very Chriss Squire, and thorugh out the riff, the bass is sorta blasting through, it reminds me a bit of his playing on The Yes album. Wich I really really love


I Think one of the defentie factors of the 70`s drums are loud sounding toms, and being quite dry does also help, so I think your drum sound is just the sound I`m trying to obtain. with various luck.

One question; I think your vox sound is just out of this world.
care to reveal the chain?

again great work guys, top shelf stuff.

Thanks, Naka. I'm glad you like it. The vox are completely unprocessed - just a V67G to an RNP into Sonar. I doubled up each line except for the 1st and 2nd high harmony on the second and third verse respectively, which are single lines.

The toms and kick are gated, otherwise the drums are completely unprocessed.

 

[undrgrnd studio]

Beatles?

First of all, wow! That was an excellent recording and a great song. I really like your sound. I have to say there is a large portion of Beatles influence in there. I listened to the other song you have posted, and I even noticed the guitar riff effect about 50 seconds in was very similar to George Harrison's guitar sound on "Something" I think, not sure but I know he used it a lot . The arrangment is definitely similar as well. The keys reminded me of "Fixing a Hole" quite a bit. Let me tell you, I'm not saying you are ripping anyone off or anything like that, I'm saying I am amazed at how good it all sounds and that the Beatles similarities are a special treat. I am a huge Beatles fan, and I most certainly can hear it in your music. Two thumbs up man. Excellent all around.

Relistening to Crazy from the sunshine again, I noticed also that the back vocals have a similarity to "She's leaving" from Sgt Pepper. NICE!

 

[Incanus]

The toms and kick are gated, otherwise the drums are completely unprocessed.

Just for the record: in addition to what Creep mentioned, the kick was very slightly compressed on the way in. And if I'm not mistaken, we also eq'd the snare, pulling out frequencies at around 240 or so as they were a bit over-accentuated as originally recorded. But I think that was everything.

We like the drums pretty dry, so aside from possibly lowering the toms a bit I think they're done.

 

[Incanus]

First of all, wow! That was an excellent recording and a great song. I really l**** your sound. I have to say there is a large portion of Beatles influence in there. I listened to the other song you have posted, and I even noticed the guitar riff effect about 50 seconds in was very similar to George Harrison's guitar sound on "Something" I think, not sure but I know he used it a lot . The arrangment is definitely similar as well. The keys reminded me of "Fixing a Hole" quite a bit. Let me tell you, I'm not saying you are ripping anyone off or anything like that, I'm saying I am amazed at how good it all sounds and that the Beatles similarities are a special treat. I am a huge Beatles fan, and I most certainly can hear it in your music. Two thumbs up man. Excellent all around.

Relistening to Crazy from the sunshine again, I noticed also that the back vocals have a similarity to "She's leaving" from Sgt Pepper. NICE!

Thanks very much!!

Can't deny the Beatles influence (or if I did, not with a straight face!) I'm not sure why, but "She's leaving Home" was never one of my favourites. But you're probably referring to the bridge of "Crazy from the Sunshine" where there is a back-up vocal counter-melody.

We 'take' or 'borrow' some things from music that we like, as the Beatles and other bands did from earlier music, and so on. I'm pretty sure that's been happening as long as there's been music. I like to think that we take such things and then make them our own.

Glad you enjoyed it.

 

[undrgrnd studio]

Not my favotite either

Thanks very much!!

Can't deny the Beatles influence (or if I did, not with a straight face!) I'm not sure why, but "She's leaving Home" was never one of my favourites. But you're probably referring to the bridge of "Crazy from the Sunshine" where there is a back-up vocal counter-melody.

We 'take' or 'borrow' some things from music that we like, as the Beatles and other bands did from earlier music, and so on. I'm pretty sure that's been happening as long as there's been music. I like to think that we take such things and then make them our own.

Glad you enjoyed it.

She's Leaving Home is definitely one of the more sappy "Paul" Beatles songs. I would agree that it gets filed under lowest category (same place I fiile most Ringo songs). But I hear you man. I love the beatles and wish some of my music would show that in the end product. I downloaded your songs to put on my play list. Do you have any others I could listen to?

If you're interested www.theundergroundstudio.com/my_music.htm is where my songs are located. You might like some of it as it's somewhat similar. I do everything myself so I am limited with my drumming, but I do OK when I do drum. Check out break of dawn for the harmonies.

 

[Supercreep]

Just for the record: in addition to what Creep mentioned, the kick was very slightly compressed on the way in. And if I'm not mistaken, we also eq'd the snare, pulling out frequencies at around 240 or so as they were a bit over-accentuated as originally recorded. But I think that was everything.

We like the drums pretty dry, so aside from possibly lowering the toms a bit I think they're done.

True enough, I had forgotten about the snare. I guess that would make "completely unprocessed" an untrue statement - an unintentional oversight. I aplogize.

 

[Incanus]

She's Leaving Home is definitely one of the more sappy "Paul" Beatles songs. I would agree that it gets filed under lowest category (same place I fiile most Ringo songs). But I hear you man. I love the beatles and wish some of my music would show that in the end product. I downloaded your songs to put on my play list. Do you have any others I could listen to?

If you're interested www.theundergroundstudio.com/my_music.htm is where my songs are located. You might like some of it as it's somewhat similar. I do everything myself so I am limited with my drumming, but I do OK when I do drum. Check out break of dawn for the harmonies.

I'm listening to 'Break of Dawn' now. This song actually reminds me of early Pink Floyd, Obscured by Clouds or Meddle era. There are some kind of weird, abrupt noises all over the recording, however. I hope that was something that crept into the conversion or mixdown or something and that it's not on the original tracks. Otherwise great job! You should post some of these in the clinic. Thanks for sharing.

We have 6 other songs than the 2 you listened to right now. We're trying to make a 10-11 song CD that we should be completely done with hopefully in the spring sometime. We can only post 2 or 3 at a time on nowhere radio for now--eventually we will have web site, maybe when we're done with this CD.

 

[Dogman]

I'm listening to 'Break of Dawn' now. This song actually reminds me of early Pink Floyd, Obscured by Clouds or Meddle era. There are some kind of weird, abrupt noises all over the recording, however. I hope that was something that crept into the conversion or mixdown or something and that it's not on the original tracks. Otherwise great job! You should post some of these in the clinic. Thanks for sharing.

We have 6 other songs than the 2 you listened to right now. We're trying to make a 10-11 song CD that we should be completely done with hopefully in the spring sometime. We can only post 2 or 3 at a time on nowhere radio for now--eventually we will have web site, maybe when we're done with this CD.

Hey, if you guys need some space for your other tunes, let me know. We can work something out....

 

[Incanus]

Hey, if you guys need some space for your other tunes, let me know. We can work something out....

Thanks Ed! I'll let Casey handle that. I don't know how to do mp3 conversions yet and I'm not very internet capable in general. Supercreep's been taking care of all that cause he's smart, but I should learn more. I did figure out how to put a link to the nowhereradio page in my sig though!!!!!! Aren't you proud of me??

I sound silly. I'm going to go get a beer. . .