DM60
Well-known member
Any of you folks looked into this new offering by Behringer? Seems they are coming out with a lot of hardware these days.
Papanate
Well-known member
I checked it out - having the real Neve for a long time - it is fairly close to the sonic footprint - amazing so for the $500 pricetag.
Slouching Raymond
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It will always be a lookalike. I believe Heritage Audio do lookalikes too.
TalismanRich
Well-known member
I'll make a few predictions:
1 They'll sell a bunch of them based on glowing reviews in magazines and on internet forums.
2 The audio illuminati will decry that it's pure junk and doesn't hold a candle to a real Neve. It doesn't have the proper components made of unobtainium.
3 There will be an onslaught of video reviews saying that it's 98% of a true Neve for 20% of the cost.
4 Several dozen used units will show up on Reverb within a month because it didn't turn everything into magic.
5 The audio world will move on to the next big thing.
The Behringer will get roughly the same treatment as Warm mics and interfaces and others. No matter how good something is, it's never exactly the same as the original. It might even be better, but nobody will ever say that. It really won't matter if they are decent performing equipment or not, or if they give a very affordable approximation of the original design.
1 They'll sell a bunch of them based on glowing reviews in magazines and on internet forums.
2 The audio illuminati will decry that it's pure junk and doesn't hold a candle to a real Neve. It doesn't have the proper components made of unobtainium.
3 There will be an onslaught of video reviews saying that it's 98% of a true Neve for 20% of the cost.
4 Several dozen used units will show up on Reverb within a month because it didn't turn everything into magic.
5 The audio world will move on to the next big thing.
The Behringer will get roughly the same treatment as Warm mics and interfaces and others. No matter how good something is, it's never exactly the same as the original. It might even be better, but nobody will ever say that. It really won't matter if they are decent performing equipment or not, or if they give a very affordable approximation of the original design.
DM60
Well-known member
You've been here before? To know the future is to know the past.
rob aylestone
Moderator
My conclusions with mics exactly. The ones you cannot afford you dribble over, until you buy one and discover it is far from perfect, using modern standards. The hifi brigade even invented descriptive words to describe these things.
PorterhouseMusic
Well-known member
Was going to say the same thing: Think "Warm Audio" (disclosure: I own a bunch of Warm gear - and am quite happy with it)
Papanate
Well-known member
Warm Audio products while decent are very good emulations of the products they are emulating - one thing is you have to own 4 -6 of the Neve preamps - then restore them as close to spec as you can- then decide if they are worth it.
CoolCat
Well-known member
Behringer has joined what WARM does, basically copying old patented gear and selling at a cheaper price.
Its often better than a novice could pull off in DIY.
I always saw these clones that way, Cheaper, prebuilt DIY kits ...done for you for a cheaper price than the Original OEM.
WARM might spend a bit more on a transformer name brand than Behringer would.
Its often better than a novice could pull off in DIY.
I always saw these clones that way, Cheaper, prebuilt DIY kits ...done for you for a cheaper price than the Original OEM.
WARM might spend a bit more on a transformer name brand than Behringer would.
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shmaller
Member
just chiming in to say I got a great deal on a Warm WA-2A (LA-2A knockoff) and while I could live without it, it sounds good and makes my workflow easier!
PorterhouseMusic
Well-known member
My WA-2A and WA-EQP are easily my favorite pieces of gear. I don't have any idea how the real deal(s) compares. Dudn't matter at this point - they're very useful.
Slouching Raymond
Well-known member
They are on the streets now, I saw yesterday.
Behringer have made some very good products, that I use every day.
Maybe I'll try the Neve copies, just to see.
Only snag is Neve is built up to a standard, while Behringer is built down to a price.
Behringer have made some very good products, that I use every day.
Maybe I'll try the Neve copies, just to see.
Only snag is Neve is built up to a standard, while Behringer is built down to a price.
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noah330
Active member
I've done the cheap thing and I've done the mix and match quality gear thing.
These days, I have one of those little API mixers, a 4 channel API preamp and a couple (Audio Scape) LA-2A and 1176 comps along with a nice old Larc reverb by Lexicon.
I've found (for me) keeping to the things I like quality beats quantity and keeping the impedances right through the console makes a big difference. It's amazing how few plugins I use aside from gates or parametrics.
These days, I have one of those little API mixers, a 4 channel API preamp and a couple (Audio Scape) LA-2A and 1176 comps along with a nice old Larc reverb by Lexicon.
I've found (for me) keeping to the things I like quality beats quantity and keeping the impedances right through the console makes a big difference. It's amazing how few plugins I use aside from gates or parametrics.