THe magic in Vegas (or am I just ignorant)

[CyanJaguar]

why is this?

I record stuff(say a midi file) thru the inputs on my sound card, into vegas. normalize it, and then duplicate the track about 7 times and assign each track to a different bus.

the resulting wav file when converted is very , very loud and it always stays between 6 and 0 .

when I check it out in siren, it always peaks on zero but never goes over.

and the magic: if you apply any deductive eq to it in siren, it clips. Why?

And is this a good alternative to compression?

 

[drstawl]

It's all relative. Siren is a toy compared to Vegas.
If you mix together 7 normalized files, you're going to have to apply a cut to each to keep the mix from clipping.
Don't normalize at this stage.
Ed would say don't normalize at all.
Assignment of each track to a different bus is useful only if you've got an 8 out card and are monitoring each track separately externally.
Is this resultant wave file the result of a "mix to new track" command?
Why would you want to mix 7 copies of the same track? If you're gonna go to that trouble, record the separate MIDI channels as individual tracks and mix those down to a stereo pair. That way you can tweak EQ and compression on individual instruments instead of the whole mix.

 

[CyanJaguar]

Drstawl,

say that you duplicate a track 7 times and assign them to the same bus, the it clips way high, but when you duplicate the same track 7 times and assign to a different bus, then no bus clips, and when you bounce to wav it has a lot of level.

the reson I was amazed is that I had been mixing all my tracks to the same master, and the resultant level was ok, but nothing compared to the level I get now when I mix each instrument to a different master.

Also, when I view it in siren(I only use siren as a juke box and to see the level of the wav) it always stays on zero but never goes over. Why?

theoretically, two sounds of the same level will provide an increase of 3dbs when played together, so normalized master should be way loud and clip, but it does not.

the eq I was referring to is the one that I have in siren, the juke box. If you pull a fader down to reduce it by , say, 2 db, it should reduce the overall level, but in this case it increases it. That is not normal.

Yes, the resultant wav file is either a mix to new track or a "save as" command