The effect that home recording has on music overall

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maybe steve vai's recording was good.
i personally think his style is rather boring. its the whole look how fast/high up on the neck i can play mentality...
 
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Who agrees with this statement: the advent of affordable home recording is improving the artistry of music overall. Who disagrees, and why? I'll weigh in with my feelings when I'm not nearly as tired. Night y'all!

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'Improving the artistry' is far too subjective.

Improving in what way?

I can think of numerous artists that got by long before the ability to record at home, pro, or even record at all.

From a personal perspective, recording has allowed me to create parts that wouldn't have been possible, i.e. multitrack. The ability to put the 'other' parts down that I hear in my head, to tape is one of the big benefits. That applys whether your the bass player, drummer, guitar player, singer or the groupie. Everyone gets a chance to screw up twice.

If we phrased this as 'Does homerecording have an impact on future music'. Of course it will, just like billy down the street jammng away on his $50 bass guitar, recording it on a ghetto blaster and then giving the tape to jeff the guitar player up the street to work on.

What's the difference? Jeff and Billy will play the songs live and then someday record them, whether it be on a 4 track or a 2". Will Jeff and Billy make an influence on 'future' music, who knows. Will J and B make it in music, unlikely. Did J and B have fun doing it. yeah.

So what's my point?

Artistry is subjective.

Rock on
 
Home recording has become an extension of the art of expression through music.

First you discover you like music. Then you want to learn how to play music. Once you play a few tunes, you then want to write your own. Without recording it just ends there, and for many of us that's just not enough. Especially when you write something so good that it overwhelms you. For me, I have to see my music reach its full identity before I am truly satisfied. And once a song is completely recorded, mixed, and burned, then I can put it to rest and work on the next tune in my arsenal..

I won't deny that it would be great if my songs sold millions, but really it doesn't matter. If I wanted a demo to shop around, then I would hire someone to produce it for me. Besides, if the finished product sounds good to me, then as far as I'm concerned, it's already on equal footing with the professionally done cd's in my collection.

Cy
 
Who cares anyway?

It's who you know and how much you're willing to "sell your soul" that matters in the music biz. If you want to make it big, that is.
Otherwise, just do home recording cuz ya enoy it. That's my defeatist attitude anyway. Like Homer Simpson said, " Can't win. Don't try."
 
Shailat said:


When was the last time you saw a inexpensive PT rig ?
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I'm sitting in front of one right now. Under $1K including the computer.
 
M.Brane said:


I'm sitting in front of one right now. Under $1K including the computer.
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Right......I see......... you bought a TDM PT with a computer all for under $1k.......Just do me a favor see if it says on the bottom "Fisher price" or made in Taiwan....and are you sure the computer has something inside? did you open the box? If it feels to heavy it might be rocks .....if not - Tell me were and how.......I think I'll pick up a few dozen.
 
You can say that only %10 of homerecordings are any good.

I don't think the major labels are doing much better. Better sound quality maybe...better music?

If you listen to ten random cds put out by major labels you'll probably like one. If you listen to ten random cds recorded by people on this site you'll probably like one.
I could be wrong though.


I think that asking whether the advent of homerecording improves artistry is like asking whether the advent of mass-produced folk-guitars improved artistry.
Recording equipment is just an instrument, it's neutral, it doesn't affect the artistry one way or the other as far as making it better or worse. It adds possibilities but that is all. I don't think that Beethoven would have been any more of an artist if he had had modern euipment. He could have and would have done more crazy things; but I don't think his artistry would have improved or lessened.

I am lousy at trumpet whether I'm playing a monet or a yamaha. I make good piano music whether I'm playing a Steinway or a Sony keyboard. The music comes through better on the Steinway though and gives my already "good" artistry more voice.

Tucci
 
Shailat said:


Right......I see......... you bought a TDM PT with a computer all for under $1k.......Just do me a favor see if it says on the bottom "Fisher price" or made in Taiwan....and are you sure the computer has something inside? did you open the box? If it feels to heavy it might be rocks .....if not - Tell me were and how.......I think I'll pick up a few dozen.
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Dude, maybe you should try decaf.:eek:

It's real simple. Get yourself an AV PowerMac, pop in an XLR8 G3 card, a second hard drive, a couple of 128MB DIMM's and PT Free. Works like a charm & well under a grand. Of course it ain't no TDM but most home recorders don't have the mics, board etc. to justify one anyway. Besides, you didn't mention anything about TDM in your post.

Of course you PC snobs would never consider using a lowly old Mac, would you? :p
 
M.Brane said:


It's real simple, you didn't mention anything about TDM in your post.
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And it didnt come to mind going through the thread, that we were talking about a Professional recording system..........

Well I guess its all simple to you.........;)
 
Last time I checked this was the "Home Recording BBS" right? ;)

It's all good, man. I realize many do not know about the bargain that a system like this represents.

And yes I do believe in the KISS method. :D
 
I'm thinking home recording will change everything in music. It might take five to ten years to do so but the record industry as we know it is allready dead.

Unless something changes, none of us songwriter types are ever going to mix and 'master' anything all that well, but who gives a shit? We've got the recording.
 
AlleyCat said:

Let's face it, most of us have day jobs and do the music thing for our own satisfaction. Unless David Geffen sends me a 6-figure check, I know I won't be bustin' my hump in bars every weekend to make payments on the van I'm living in...if you know what I mean. Home recording is an outlet of creativity, and it allows me to share my music with the rest of the world. The combination of home recording and internet MP3 sharing gives everyone a chance to hear and feel music that they never would of found before...even on the most obscure indy labels.

Ok, so a lot of it "sucks"...hell, you may even think my stuff sucks. But, at least you had a chance to hear it and decide that for yourself without some snot-nosed A&R dork telling you what you should like.
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This man speaks the truth....Artists will always find some way to produce their art. This applies to bad as well as good artists. The current crop of gear is simply further tools in the arsenal. The guys that couldn't do anything with what was available before won't suddenly be able to do great things just 'cause there's even more complicated stuff to use.

Many of us here remember when none of this stuff even existed including multitracking itself and, of course, wonderful music was recorded when even the big boys only had 2-tracks to work with. For me, I just see it all as tools I can use to try to get some of the things in my head on tape...er..ah..on disc I mean.

As for the idea of "making it" whatever that might mean, those of us that have been doing it forever know that almost all the musicians who are so sure they're gonna make it don't. Too bad. Should I just quit playing if I can't have a hit song? Hell no!

I wouldn't mind stardom mind you, but I'd be very pleased if I manage to post something that gets good reviews right here on this BBS. I've played in front of thousands and it was fun but it's done. These things are fleeting and except for the money, I'm as interested in all of your opinions as I am in anyone elses'. ;)
 
The great thing about home recording to an old folky like me
is that it allows us to share our regional styles which we would
never hear if music distribution was left to the big boys...

I have been influenced over the years by music from many
different areas---many of the artists never got a sniff at a
pro contract---but I loved their music anyway..

Graham.
 
No doubt, Graham. Also we get to meet people we would have never met. For instance, I'm starting up a collaboration with a guy in vancouver and here I am in Louisiana. How cool is that? :D
 
Hey LT.Bob,

Collaborating with a guy from my neck of the woods---great stuff!!

Lots of seriously good players in Van.--nice town too...

What kind of tunes are you going to be working on???

Graham.
 
We're not sure yet. We've just gotten started. He's set up a ftp server so we can send each other our files and he has an acoustic tune he thinks would be a good start. You know, to try and get an idea where each of us lean in our playing. I'm open to whatever so I think I'll just be guided by whatever floats his boat. I kinda think that's the point; to go where we would never have thought of before. I'm looking forward to it. My wife's mom is from Canada so I have some ties up there. Too cold in the winter for me 'though. :)
 
Hey Lt.Bob,

It's not cold inside my studio.

If you get a chance, listen to CBC Radio 10:00 PM. Saturday
night...They have an hour of new music from Quebec...All French
language but I'm sure you'll dig the french flavour they put on things.Waaaaaaay different from us Anglos!!!

Graham.
 
Beck --Loser

Beck's tune Loser was recorded on an 8 track by some lowlife producer in a basement. It was not even an official single when it started playing on the radio.

This is about the only successful home studio recording that I can think of and its not an album.
 
My Humble opinion.

I think that Home Recording shouldn't try to change the industry, just change the people that are doing it (qhich means us). Although it has done it before (I may be wrong but I think Boston's first album was done on Tom Scholtz basement).

But the ability to record ourselves and our bands is still a great chance for local people to listen to us (friends, fans, relatives, etc.) or even people outside our country, like our mp3 forum and share opinions about our music, is a great experience.

My music may suck, but the same goes for a lot of commercial music right now.

My 2 cents

:)
 
The first Boston album...

... and pretty much every subsequent album was recorded at Tom Scholz's home studio. Granted, the guy's somewhat of an electronics genius (he's got a degree in mechanical engineering from MIT), and of course he eventually got some pretty kickass gear, but that first album was done in a very basic way on relatively simple equipment by someone learning the nuts-and-bolts of recording through trial and error. Though the production is credited to John Boylan, Scholz actually did most of it himself. Boylan acknowledged that, aside from the acoustic instruments' sounding somewhat amaturish on Scholz's demos, TS certainly seemed to know what he was doing, so they set up this elaborate ruse to make Epic Records think that the album was being recorded in LA, when in fact it was being done in TS's basement. Tom recons that first Boston album - you know, the one that sold over 16 million copies - cost only a few thousand dollars to make in 1975-76. Most of the drums were done in a little closet and with three mics; the acoustic guitar on "More Than A Feeling" was tracked on a $100.00 Yamaha 12-string with a relatively low-end Electro Voice dynamic mic. I think "Let Me Take You Home Tonight" was the only song on that album NOT recorded in Scholz' basement.

More info at www.boston.org

Bruce in Korea
 
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