The best Digital Multitrack Recorders

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Hi all, I'm a singer/songwriter, guitarist interested getting some recommendations/suggestions on digital mulitrack recorders in the $800 to 1500 price range.

I have no hands on experience using digital recorders, but I have been exposed to the recording environment and understand the concepts as well as comfortable with computers....

Initially I'm looking for a recorder to record song ideas etc...

Thanks

Steve
 
Yo Steverin-O:}

You pose a kind of large question as to which is best but most all of the units out there in the price range you suggest have pluses and a few minuses.

Yamaha does a couple of versions of the SIAB [studio in a box] and there are many positive reports for you to research. The most popular Yam unit at this time, and times change quickly, is their AWG 16. It has good sound and burns the CD all in the same box.

If you are computer savvy, that is a big plus as the manuals, if you've heard, are not all that good. Kind of spotty organization has always been a Yamaha trade mark concerning manuals.

The Korg units cost more but are also good units as well as Akai.

I suggest you go to a major vendor and take a look and give a listen. Even if you have to travel, it's worth the trip to "know" before you let GO of your dough.

I use the Yam 2816 and it has been a great learning experience. It's not too hard to navigate but I'm still learning.

Some good deals to be had on the Yam 4416, their first runner of a SIAB as it is supposed to go out of production soon or already has.

Fostex has digital boxes and there are a couple of others.

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I hate to say they're all the same in terms of quality, but it's probably not that far from the truth in the $800-$1,500 range. Like the Green Hornet said, it's more a question of features and how they match you particular needs or recording methods. If you are going to record just a few acoustic tracks, you won't need a 16 track recorder cabable of recording 8 inputs at one time. Instead, being able to record at 24bit resolution might be more important and 8-10 tracks might work.On the other hand, if you are a drummer and want to mic up a full drum kit, multiple inputs are crucial. If you have some outboard gear, the internal effects on these machines are probably just a convenience and it's more important that the recorder is able to setup an insert or some method of integrating your external gear. And while built-in CD burners are nice, you might not need one if you plan on exporting tracks to a computer for editing. Here, the computer interface is more important and you might make a decision on how easy it is to transfer WAV files to your computer. At any rate, you get the idea.

The other thing to keep in mind is where you want to be in a couple of years and what kind of recording quality you are after. These machines are often called SIAB's or Studio-In-A-Box. To be honest, though, you are really getting a mini home studio with plenty of limitations. You won't be able to do all the complex things that the pros do and, remember, that if these machines could produce pro results, you would find them in pro studios. That doesn't mean you're not talented or that you can't produce "decent" material or a good demo. It just means that there are limits. The other issue with the SIAB is upgrading. Many machines come with mixers, effects, preamps, converters, and just about everything you need (short of monitors) to make recorded music. The downside to this is that the manufacturer has been forced to make some hard decisions about the quality of indiviual components. For $800 to $1,500, you can't have the best AD converters, the best preamps, and the best mixer. As a result, you end up getting a series of (hopefully) decent pieces of equipment in one box. If you don't like something, however, it's important to be able to modify the SIAB with outboard gear. And chances are if you grow as a studio muscician/engineer you will eventually want more options. So check to see that whatever you buy can be bypassed.
 
I know it's out of your price range, but I love my Roland 2480. I have never felt limited by it, and I've taken on some huge projects both live and studio.
 
Check out the Korg D1200 or the D1600 one is a twelve track and the other is a sixteen track. The D1200 retails for about 1000.00 and the D1600 for around 1300.00. I just purchased a D1200 off of ebay for 650.00 haven't got it yet though. Anyway from what I've been told and from what I've heard is that these are some of the easiest digital recorders to use. They're sort of designed for the guitar singer song writer. They're loaded with cool features and come with built in CD burners. I suggest you check up on these.

Massimo
 
Fostex vf160

16 tracks, record 8 simultaneously. It also has 8 extra 'virtual tracks' as like an additional storage area.

Has several built in effects, delays and reverbs mostly. Nowadays comes with an internal CD burner so you can backup your songs and burn audio CDs to play in a hifi straight from the machine.
I have one and love it.

One bit of advice i would give you is not to go for anything that just does the basics of what you want for now, because in a short time you are bound to want to do that little bit more, overdubbing or workingwith other singers or whatever. So get the piece of equipment that seems like its providing too much functionality and then you'll have the possibility to 'do more' later.

For example, I used the think 16 tracks was ample for what I needed basic 4 piece pop band, now with my increased knowledge of recording techniques I would like to have 24+.
 
I strongly second the Fostex VF160cdr. Solid, stable, crystal clear sound, versatile, portable, economical. At $800, it's extremely hard to match.

If you can keep your gear in one place, and can dedicate a unit to "recording only" status, then a PC might be the way to go. But there's a lot to be said for a harddrive recorder designed solely for the purpose. I'm all too familiar with PC compatibility issues and the "blue screen of death". I wouldn't want my recording pursuits put on hold until my PC was reconfigured. Still, while editing on the VF160 is a snap, precise, and seamless, doing some of the same procedures with a click-drag mouse and monitor would be even easier and definitely faster.
 
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