Teac 2340R Help!

[glovelis]

Ok, I am new to this machine and I need advice. A few things, first and foremost, it is a stereo machine, but channel 1 is exclusively left, and 3 right, 2 left, 4 right, which I know is common, but my question is how do I record or mix so I can get one guitar track in the middle? I record mostly guitar and voice and can't figure out how to record without seperating the tracks completely. Is it possible with just a few mics to record at once, guitar and voice that is not split totally to one side. And also track 2 records a half second delay, what's the deal? And the right sides are a little quiter than the left? Help please! I bought this machine because I am dedicating myself to old recording techniques, but nobody I know can help me figure this out. A lost art I suppose, anyways any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

[technoplayer]

The 2340R has mic/ line mixing, but those pertain to the individual tracks (channels). If you want the same level on both channels of a recording, the use a Y-cord and patch one input into two channels. Alternatively, record the guitar, for example, on one channel, and use a splitter to output to both L+R on playback.

OR...get a mixer. Thats what they are for.

And as you are probably aware, the 2340R is NOT capable of overdubbing.

 

[Herm]

You need a mixer. And a recorder that is designed for multi tracking.

See the post about 2340r down below


https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=229180

 

[slidey]

it is possible to double track using the 2340 is it not

would I be right in saying you can't overdub but you can record all 4 at once with no delay

A mixer is obvious solution if one has a bit of cash to spend

PS. I'm using a 2340 for tape delay just now

 

[THX1136]

I've got a 2340R and it has simul-sync. My understanding is simul-sync is what allows one to record say up to three tracks, reduce those to one along with a live track, then record 2 tracks along with one live and reduce those etc. What I can't figure out is the "automatic reverse". I put some foil on a tape and I can't get it to do anything as the foil passes. I'm baffled as to what the auto reverse even means. I thought an auto reverse deck had to have 2 capstans to do that. Unless, of course, it just means the deck will auto rewind. Anyone out there more knowledgeable than me? Thanks for any clarification anyone can offer.

 

[technoplayer]

The 2340 R is a non-sync capable machine (no switches on the head cover) that plays 2 channel stereo and will auto reverse IN 2 CHANNEL MODE ONLY or will record/play in 4 channel. There is a Simul-Sync version of the 2340, but it is NOT the R model.

And it HAS the 4 slide switches on the head cover. And CANNOT auto reverse.

So which do you have??

 

[THX1136]

Mine does not have the switches on the head cover. It does say the deck has simul track on the head cover. Which obviously means it won't allow you to monitor off the record head while laying down another track. My brain has been somewhere else for some reason. but this was pretty obvious eh? I still don't understand how it can auto reverse without a second capstan. What am I missing? Thanks Techno, I appreciate your input.

 

[Garik]

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[Garik]

Oooops wrong thread ...sorry

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

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Wow, a Pioneer RT-707, if I'm not mistaken. Been a loooong time since I saw one of those. Is that yours?

G.

 

[Garik]

Wow, a Pioneer RT-707, if I'm not mistaken. Been a loooong time since I saw one of those. Is that yours?

G.

Yes Glen,its my pride and joy.

Now all i need is a new tape

 

[technoplayer]

Most auto reverse machines....well, most machines period...are single capstan. The capstan/pinch roller provides the motive force to actually move the tape at the preselected speed. The reel motors (left and right) provide the tape tensioning. In the case of "reverse play" on your 2340-R, the capstan/pinch roller feed the tape while the left hand reel motor provides the correct tension of the tape across the heads.

Simul-Track was just Teacs way of indicating that all 4 tracks could record/play simultaneously. But no Simul sync capability


OK??

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Now all i need is a new tape

And to stop playing your old tape backwards

Seriously, though, I used to sell the 707 some 25 years ago, it was a workhorse that had great range and sound.

And apologies to everone for the OT side bar.

G.

 

[THX1136]

So auto reverse really means auto rewind?

 

[technoplayer]

No.
Auto reverse means the tape can be played and recorded while going in either direction. going left to right you r+p on tracks 1+3, going right to left it switches to tracks 2+4.
There is usually an autosensor triggered by a foil strip you place near the end of he tape which signals the machine to reverse.

Come to think of it, I have never tried to auto reverse my 2340R. It will record and play in reverse, however.

 

[THX1136]

My next question is one I've already asked - how can it play/record in reverse without a capstan on the left side to pull the tape through at the proper speed? That's the part I don't understand. I did "foil" a reel of Maxell UD tape and nothing happened as it passed through the heads. I don't see anything that looks like a sensor - whether mechanical or optical - in the area. I know this is probably a stupid question with an obvious answer, but I just don't get it I guess. All auto reverse decks I've had experience with have 2 capstans - one on the left and one on the right of the heads to pull the tape past the heads at the set speed. The only answer I can figure is the capstan automatically changes rotation. Is that how Teac does it?

 

[technoplayer]

The capstan establishes tape SPEED. The REEL MOTORS provide tensioning, regardless of tape direction.

Look....Set the 2340 for 2 channel mode, set the shuttle lever to play and press the LEFT hand (left pointing) play button. The tape plays right to left,
i.e. in reverse. Right?
Capstan location or one vs two capstans is irrelevant.

 

[THX1136]

I apologize for not grasping this sooner. My brain is saying the capstan must "pull" the tape past the heads. Of course you're right. It doesn't make any difference where the capstan is located. I checked it out and yes indeed it does reverse. Thank you for your patience.