Taylor Swift signature guitar

[mattdee1]

Brittney Spears is talented.

The Beatles were a marketing machine. Every teenager in the world was wearing beatle wigs and beatle boots in the early 60's.

She is an incredible songwriter by MOST standards. But, if you are looking for specific standards...
Her records are selling by the millions and she is writing 90% of the songs on the album. So, I guess if the Beatles are considered incredible songwiters because they wrote 80% of the songs on albums that were selling by the millions...she is incredible by THAT standard.
If the Beatles were considered incredible songwriters because of subject matter...like "I want to hold your hand"..."she loves you yeah yeah yeah".
I think she is in the ballpark subject matter wise...so she can be deemed incredible by THAT standard also.

There were 3 of the Beatles writing their songs and there is only one of her so she can be considered 3 times as incredible by THAT standard.

I'll admit right up front that I know very little about Britney Spears other than what her smashed crotch looks like (shriveled up bacon, incidentally). But even still, why do I find it hard to believe she writes 90% of her output? When she's sitting in her hotel room writing songs, what instrument(s) does she use to compose?

I really, really hope that in holding her up as a "songwriter" you're not just referring to the fact that she writes lyrics (especially when we're talking about her brand of lyrics).

As for trying to make an argument that she stacks up to the Beatles... fuck it, nevermind.

 

[kcearl]

Lol. Making fun of my already admittedly dumb lyrics is the best you can come up with? Fuck man, wheelemo is better at this than you are.

not an effing chance...


watch the wheelemo insults dude...there's only so much I can take


you dont want me to point out that your last track was following the kardashian tremelo but moved to the cremetoriaum foxtrot by 1.37 when it should have been a B flat major do you?


well do you!!!?????

 

[kcearl]

I'll admit right up front that I know very little about Britney Spears other than what her smashed crotch looks like (shriveled up bacon, incidentally). But even still, why do I find it hard to believe she writes 90% of her output? When she's sitting in her hotel room writing songs, what instrument(s) does she use to compose?

I really, really hope that in holding her up as a "songwriter" you're not just referring to the fact that she writes lyrics (especially when we're talking about her brand of lyrics).

As for trying to make an argument that she stacks up to the Beatles... fuck it, nevermind.

Britney...Beatles...same shite different gay

 

[Greg_L]

not an effing chance...


watch the wheelemo insults dude...there's only so much I can take


you dont want me to point out that your last track was following the kardashian tremelo but moved to the cremetoriaum foxtrot by 1.37 when it should have been a B flat major do you?


well do you!!!?????

I have no idea what you just said, so I'm just gonna claim my victory and move on.

 

[kcearl]

its a pwn/pwn situation

 

[mattdee1]

So, what do you deem to be a good indicater of good song writing...songs that YOU personally like?
Is that your only yardstick of songwriting?

I don't think those opposing you are trying so much to argue what constitutes an indicator of good songwriting as they are trying to argue what does not. Record sales do not. I refuse to explain to you why that is, because it should be completely obvious.

Let's say the record company sent Britney out to a remote cabin in the woods for, say, 4 months. They provided her with all the necessary creature comforts, food, water, heat, etc. Not only that, but paper, pencils, and any equipment she wanted as well--laptops, instruments, recording gear, or otherwise. Let's say further that she had one assignment: to spend that time alone writing music, with the hopes of generating a handful of at least semi-complete songs from which the next hit single would be selected. When recorded, this new single would not have anything added musically by anybody else--the only expertise other than her own would come from the recording team to get the song tracked, mixed, and mastered.

Since you think she is a veritable songwriting talent, I'd love to know what you think the product might sound like. I know what I think it would sound like.

Good songs get recorded and good songwriters get their songs published and covered by major artists.

When people cover Britney Spears, are they doing it out of artistic respect, or comedic/camp value?

The turd rises to the top.

Well, we agree on that.

 

[Richard Monroe]

I guess I'm a moderate here. Is Taylor Swift a genius, whose masterpieces will be played 300 years from now? I doubt it, but I suppose you never know. The critics said, after watching "Fantasia", that a full length animated film was a silly concept that would never catch on, and universally panned it. Van Gogh was considered a hack in his own time.

Is she a snotty little bitch comparable to Brittney Spears? No. She appears to be a very nice, rather lucky, young singer-songwriter, who may or may not turn out to be one of the really good ones, if her own popularity doesn't destroy her.

I agree that commercial success doesn't mean you are any good. It also doesn't mean that you suck. It means that you have good management, and you are lucky, in addition to appealing to some market segment.

Do you get a signature guitar because you are a great guitarist? No. You get one because some guitar manufacturer believes that there is a market segment that will buy that guitar because it has your name on it. Classic example, my old Selena signature Epiphone classical. I bought it cheap used because no one else wanted a girly guitar with a rose on it. That's the nice thing about studio guitars, no one ever has to look at them, they just have to play.

The only thing I don't really get is the undercurrent of anger, as if commercial success should be tied to the artistic merit of your material and performance. Get over it. It has never happened, and never will. Hell, this group of posters, all rather knowledgable, can't even agree on a single recording artist being talented. OK maybe you don't like the Beatles. Well I don't like Kanye West, I think he's a hack. I'd rather listen to Taylor Swift, but that's just me. For every Benny Goodman, there is a Tiny Tim, and for every Faith Hill, there is a Jessica Simpson. The fact that people who aren't that talented can make a ton of money should give us hope, not make us angry. That means that with astute management, enough hype, and enough luck, some of you broken down hacks could get lucky and make some money.-Richie

 

[Greg_L]

I guess I'm a moderate here. Is Taylor Swift a genius, whose masterpieces will be played 300 years from now? I doubt it, but I suppose you never know. The critics said, after watching "Fantasia", that a full length animated film was a silly concept that would never catch on, and universally panned it. Van Gogh was considered a hack in his own time.

Is she a snotty little bitch comparable to Brittney Spears? No. She appears to be a very nice, rather lucky, young singer-songwriter, who may or may not turn out to be one of the really good ones, if her own popularity doesn't destroy her.

I agree that commercial success doesn't mean you are any good. It also doesn't mean that you suck. It means that you have good management, and you are lucky, in addition to appealing to some market segment.

Do you get a signature guitar because you are a great guitarist? No. You get one because some guitar manufacturer believes that there is a market segment that will buy that guitar because it has your name on it. Classic example, my old Selena signature Epiphone classical. I bought it cheap used because no one else wanted a girly guitar with a rose on it. That's the nice thing about studio guitars, no one ever has to look at them, they just have to play.

The only thing I don't really get is the undercurrent of anger, as if commercial success should be tied to the artistic merit of your material and performance. Get over it. It has never happened, and never will. Hell, this group of posters, all rather knowledgable, can't even agree on a single recording artist being talented. OK maybe you don't like the Beatles. Well I don't like Kanye West, I think he's a hack. I'd rather listen to Taylor Swift, but that's just me. For every Benny Goodman, there is a Tiny Tim, and for every Faith Hill, there is a Jessica Simpson. The fact that people who aren't that talented can make a ton of money should give us hope, not make us angry. That means that with astute management, enough hype, and enough luck, some of you broken down hacks could get lucky and make some money.-Richie

Summary please.

 

[Zaphod B]

Damn, you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill.

She's a popular, guitar-totin' artist.

Taylor sticks her name on a cheap guitar and sells a million and she gets a cut of each one.

There's not much to it.

 

[kcearl]

this is outrageous!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Richard Monroe]

OK- summary-

It seems to me that you are the one who is snotty and crying because a recording artist you don't like has a signature guitar and is making a ton of money. Get over it. No one but you cares about it.-Richie

 

[Lt. Bob]

Britney Spears is NOT particularly talented. She sings poorly ...... she doesn't dance worth shit and there's no way I believe she's writing 90% of her stuff.

I'm from close to Kentwood where she's from and she's pretty much regarded as an embarrassment down there.

Local joke :
"why does Britney Spears like coonasses?
"cause a coonass will eat anything!"

simply selling records does not define you as talented.
The Archies sold a lot of records and they didn't even exist.
Tiny Tim sold lots of records .......
New Kids on the Block sold lots of records and they absolutely sucked in every way imaginable.

 

[qrs]

Summary please.

You are one ignorant ____ huh?

 

[Greg_L]

OK- summary-

It seems to me that you are the one who is snotty and crying because a recording artist you don't like has a signature guitar and is making a ton of money. Get over it. No one but you cares about it.-Richie

Fail. I don't care about who makes what money. Record sales and money mean shit to me when it comes liking or playing music. I have respect for real music played by real people and real musical talent. Cookie-cutter pop need not apply. Taylor Swift is a cutesy product of the lamest, cliche-est, chessiest genre in music: Country Pop. Funny how you NEVER see any fat, old, haggardly chicks selling millions of country pop records.

You fools quit trying to sniff her panties and get real.

 

[Greg_L]

You are one ignorant ____ huh?

You are one chickenshit 30 yr old teenie-bopping dork, huh?

 

[Greg_L]

Britney Spears is NOT particularly talented. She sings poorly ...... she doesn't dance worth shit and there's no way I believe she's writing 90% of her stuff.

I'm from close to Kentwood where she's from and she's pretty much regarded as an embarrassment down there.

Local joke :
"why does Britney Spears like coonasses?
"cause a coonass will eat anything!"

simply selling records does not define you as talented.
The Archies sold a lot of records and they didn't even exist.
Tiny Tim sold lots of records .......
New Kids on the Block sold lots of records and they absolutely sucked in every way imaginable.

You can't use that kind of reality or logic when you're dealing with fans of teen-pop.

 

[Lt. Bob]

You can't use that kind of reality or logic when you're dealing with fans of teen-pop.

sorry ..... I'm new to this internet thing.

I meant to say she's such a misunderstood artiste.

 

[Greg_L]

sorry ..... I'm new to this internet thing.

I meant to say she's such a misunderstood artiste.

Right. Don't forget that she's cute too. Cute is important when you're a brilliant songwriter.

 

[kcearl]

it has certainly helped me

 

[Chili]

Right. Don't forget that she's cute too. Cute is important when you're a brilliant songwriter.

She is cute...
and rich...
and young, (but still old enough...)

What's not to like?? the music??? I haven't actually listened to any of her stuff.

So, they say she's a songwriter, but is this the case where she sits in a room with a bunch of pro writers then gets her name on the credit?? Or she has ideas for a song, then they flesh it out and make it work??? Or is she actually writing songs on her own??