dragonworks
Banned
Well, there, I went and said it.
Aaron Cheney
Favorite Chord: C 6/9
flapo1
New member
I agree completely.
Well, almost.
I do think taste must have the greater weight in the ecuation, but a player must at least have a decent grip on what he does.
Well, almost.
I do think taste must have the greater weight in the ecuation, but a player must at least have a decent grip on what he does.
dragonworks
Banned
I know a few guitar players who can rip the finish right off the neck but they still sound like shit.
flapo1
New member
You're right, dragonworks. I know some of them too.
What I meant was that, for example, David Gilmour must know his way in the fretboard to use his taste.
But as I said before I agree almost completely with you. I don't like technique over taste ever!
What I meant was that, for example, David Gilmour must know his way in the fretboard to use his taste.
But as I said before I agree almost completely with you. I don't like technique over taste ever!
Treeline
New member
Yes, well, you see...
That's why I don't bother with either one.
That's why I don't bother with either one.
AlChuck
Well-known member
Well. I agree with your basic idea, but technique means nothing? (I suppose you mean "highly developed technique," because any way of striking the strings and making sounds on the guitar amounts to technique.)
Technique is the means by which taste is expressed. It is unimportant for its own sake, but as part of the spectrum of elements involved in guitar playing, it's very important -- it allows the expression of taste. I would also say that it is inextricably part of developing one's taste. You don't know what it means to play tastefully until you've played long enough, by whatever technique you have learned or developed, to have learned how to make tasteful sounds. That doesn't mean you have to be able to play like a monster machine, just that you have to cohabit with the instrument long enough to learn how to coax the goods out of it.
There are definitely those that can play incredibly fast or complicated but have no apparent taste at all, that I can agree with 100%. But everyone that plays tastefully has to have the technique it takes to do that. Even if it were possible to have tremendous musical playing taste but have never touched an instrument, it's not demonstrable.
Technique is the means by which taste is expressed. It is unimportant for its own sake, but as part of the spectrum of elements involved in guitar playing, it's very important -- it allows the expression of taste. I would also say that it is inextricably part of developing one's taste. You don't know what it means to play tastefully until you've played long enough, by whatever technique you have learned or developed, to have learned how to make tasteful sounds. That doesn't mean you have to be able to play like a monster machine, just that you have to cohabit with the instrument long enough to learn how to coax the goods out of it.
There are definitely those that can play incredibly fast or complicated but have no apparent taste at all, that I can agree with 100%. But everyone that plays tastefully has to have the technique it takes to do that. Even if it were possible to have tremendous musical playing taste but have never touched an instrument, it's not demonstrable.
Kelly5150
New member
Pretty much true....
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Timanator
New member
dragonworks said:
If that was true, then
Dream Theater = Everything/Nothing?
You cant be one without the other and call your self a musician. You would only be an artist.
Jeff_D
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wtf is dream theater
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Timanator
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kremitmusic said:
Very open minded I see.
Dont even know who the band is, so quicklt out with the F$&# word...
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M.Brane
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If you can convey your emotion through your instrument you have technique by default.
If you can't no amount of technique will ever be able to save you from yawnitis.
If you can't no amount of technique will ever be able to save you from yawnitis.
Sky Blue Lou
Seeker-Lou '32
What Treeline said...
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dragonworks
Banned
Of course you need some sort of technique to play with taste.
But you guys get my drift.
But you guys get my drift.
mshilarious
Banned
I was at a Larry Carlton concert and some guy yelled out a request for one of his early fret-burning tunes and Larry flat out refused. Then a hot chick requested "Smiles" so he played it.
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sheppard
New member
well said!!!!!!M.Brane said:If you can convey your emotion through your instrument you have technique by default.
If you can't no amount of technique will ever be able to save you from yawnitis.
btw,wtf is kremitmusic?
dream theatre fucking rocks!!!!!
Chris Tondreau
Member
What's the point of having great ideas for stories if you do not have the technical ability/literacy to write them down in order to share it with others? Or to require someone else to say it for you?
What's the point of having the vocabulary of a Harvard English professor if you have nothing to say?
I always compare music to language. The more tools you have at your disposal, the wider the pallette you have to express your ideas.
Chris
What's the point of having the vocabulary of a Harvard English professor if you have nothing to say?
I always compare music to language. The more tools you have at your disposal, the wider the pallette you have to express your ideas.
Chris
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DarkCide
Member
There are many more guitarists who can't play and sound like shit than guitarists who can rip and sound good.
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
I "love" the gtr players that bend ONE note, lean their head back and shake their shaggy mane, and with eyes closed, beam their thoughts directly towards the heavens, as they have no desire to learn their instrument, which is so lowly strapped around their midrift, as that would only interfere with the vibe that is gained with soulful playing. 1/8th notes...not for this player of trancendental ways. One note/measure is all you need...not to mention those well placed empty spaces. Additionally, listening to the rest of the band is not required either. It's all about taste (in chics!)
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GhettoWayz
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ha ha - nothing? ya, right.
i think technique is to taste what fingers are to hands.
I mean look at rock guitar history.
ALL the greats wrote killer songs, had tasteful playing and had great technique.
Clapton, Hendrix,Blackmore, Page, Beck, Gilmour, Van Halen and loads of others weren't only great songwriters, but they had TASTE AND TECHNIQUE.....in fact most of these guys i just mention INVENTED TECHNIQUES that became rock guitar trademarks!!!!That's right, taste, technique and feel have all been rolled into one ball in the hands of the masters. !
It was great technique that made Highway Star great. Or Bron-Y-Aur..great acoustic fingerpicking techniques that would keep most busy for years.
Clearly, an educated look at rock guitar history will prove the statement in this header false.
Technique has always been a part of guitar playing. And so has a lack of it.
Its clear you may have been listening to too many 16 year olds in the guitar shops run scales and excercises without taste or feel???
Zakk Wylde would prove in about 5 seconds what great technique combined with taste and feel can do in the hands of a master....can you honestly say technique means nothing when you hear DiMeola or Zappa??
technique means nothing?
i disagree.
i think technique is to taste what fingers are to hands.
I mean look at rock guitar history.
ALL the greats wrote killer songs, had tasteful playing and had great technique.
Clapton, Hendrix,Blackmore, Page, Beck, Gilmour, Van Halen and loads of others weren't only great songwriters, but they had TASTE AND TECHNIQUE.....in fact most of these guys i just mention INVENTED TECHNIQUES that became rock guitar trademarks!!!!That's right, taste, technique and feel have all been rolled into one ball in the hands of the masters. !
It was great technique that made Highway Star great. Or Bron-Y-Aur..great acoustic fingerpicking techniques that would keep most busy for years.
Clearly, an educated look at rock guitar history will prove the statement in this header false.
Technique has always been a part of guitar playing. And so has a lack of it.
Its clear you may have been listening to too many 16 year olds in the guitar shops run scales and excercises without taste or feel???
Zakk Wylde would prove in about 5 seconds what great technique combined with taste and feel can do in the hands of a master....can you honestly say technique means nothing when you hear DiMeola or Zappa??
technique means nothing?
i disagree.
