Tascam FW1884 DAW or Tascam FW1082

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Tascam FW1884 DAW or Tascam FW1082 DAW

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The REAL Jigsaw

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okay i'm a newb and am going through the process of setting up my rig. i am first and formost dedicated to making hip hop/rap vocals as best as i can. i need your help.

Tascam FW1884 - http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--TASFW1884
Tascam FW1082 - http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--TASFW1082

there is an obvious price difference with going for the 1082, but the 1884 has word clock (i dont know much about this feature except that it's good to have). anyways, like i said my studio will be setup strictly for recording rap beats and vocals via a mix of hardware and software. i am on a budget however like so many others. i will be working with a Core 2 Extreme processor when they arrive and at least 2 GB RAM, anyhow, aside from buying the PC, i need one of the 2 DAWs to connect with the PC softwares. Can you people shed some light on which of the 2 DAWs would be a wiser choice to go with? i want an easy set up because this is my 1st rig and don't know jack.

so please make your votes to help. thank you.
 
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Well another good option would be to get a Pre set with converters built in such an Onyx unit (400F or 1200F) or and RME Fireface. Then to use something like the Mackie MCU for a controller. Just keep an eye on your options and don't get caught up on "this or this". Look into your budget and everything you have and what you are going to need an really take the time to research your decisions. If your doing hip hop look into nice monitors as well with really good low end (without the use of a sub). Personally I love the Event Studio Precision 8s.

Also you don't seem to be getting the concept of a DAW. A DAW is the Digital Audio Workstation. Its not the controller, or the keyboard its the Computer itself with the software and the Hardware, The package as a whole. At the moment your just throwing around words you don't understand.

Kyle
 
you're right i misunderstood. i meant to say the controllers. and yeah i am far away from sure of what equipment to go with, but am just thinking of some options.

the reason i like these items is because they're mostly all in one. the reviews on musiciansfriend seemed pretty good. i have been looking into monitors too. have had my eye on a couple monitors but not sure of those either. all the help is much appreciated.
 
If you have not read the guide at http://www.tweakheadz.com/ check that out. Also look into his recommended studio set ups. And my personal advice is not to use Musiciansfriend. Check out www.sweetwater.com and get yourself a sales rep. They're extremely helpful. If you want to call in and talk to a sales engineer wait for a receptionist and ask for Mark Magdich he's always been a great help to me.
 
okay i'll check the site out. treakheadz is very informative. i've been running through their articles for the past few days now.

really i just want the studio to record my vocals to put on intrumentals, and have it professionally mixed and edited and sh*t right at home. i am also soon looking to start my own record label too, so the rig is a must. i want everything to be simple yet highly effective. my workaround space is fairly large, with a separate room for the vocal booth. have to look into isolation as well.
 
Yes I understand what you want and there are about a billion different unique ways to do so.
 
Yeah. Everyone does to people asking questions. It really doesn't seem to help at first but you'll see that it will in the end.
 
hey Kyle, about the Event Studio Precision 8s. When you mentioned without the use of subs, did you mean the passive monitors and not the active ones?

thanks again.

also i've been looking at the MCU and Onyx 400F. looks nice.
 
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hey Kyle, about the Event Studio Precision 8s. When you mentioned without the use of subs, did you mean the passive monitors and not the active ones
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No not the Passive. Passive means it requires a power source. The means you would have to buy a power amplifier. Active has them built in and thats what I intended for you to buy. When I say with out the use of the sub I mean buy only the two monitors. Not the Two monitors and a sub woofer. I find that mixing in 2.1 detracts from the process because not everyone who is going to listen to your mix is going to be using a sub.

Incase you are confused on the terminology a sub is in reference to a Sub woofer. Which is a standalone speaker used to reinforce the impact of the bass frequencies. The Events have nice enough bass management that you don't need a sub.

If you find the Studio Precision 8s too pricey the 6's aren't bad either. Their a bit small and less expensive.

Kyle
 
yeah they are a bit pricey, so i'll check the 6s. and thank for explaning to me the dirrence of passive and active.
 
The REAL Jigsaw said:
yeah they are a bit pricey, so i'll check the 6s. and thank for explaning to me the dirrence of passive and active.
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Not a problem. If you have anymore questions PM me or reply to this thread.

Kyle
 
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lol, your just like me. I got the 1082 because all of the buttons and faders. i was in cool shock. I am sure i will grow into it, but if i had to do it over i would have made different pics. I dont use anything on it but the record button, my money could have been spent better elsewhere . SO... you want to lay down some fat vocal tracks. Let me share some of my knowledge and get you totaly hooked :D you will be making fat beats with a complete set up for around the price of the 1884($1299). Here is my pic for you.

focusrite is a awsome brand. dont listen to the 1 bad review that guy doent know jack. AND it comes with cubase le
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...Wire-Audio-Interface-?sku=245020&src=3SOSWXXA

this mic was #1 seller for a while(for good reason)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MXL-MXL-990-Condenser-Microphone-with-Shockmount?sku=273156

You will need a mic cable
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Friend-LoZ-Microphone-Cable?sku=338001

AND MOST IMPORTANT THE HEART OF YOUR RAP
*** A Sequencer Sampler***
THIS IS THE LOW END OF THE BEST YOU CAN GET(TO SAVE YOU $80 I GOT YOU A SCRATH AND DENT MODEL TRUST ME ITS GOOD)
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-DSP-AKAMPC1000--dsp-true.html

TOTAL COST :$1288 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: THE FW 1884 WAS $11 MORE AT $1299 and your studio would still be not making beats.

Mike Elizondo(you prob have not heard the name) who was the right hand man of Dr.Dre and Eminem(to name a couple) says dre made him use the mpc3000 and it is dre's priority instrument above anything else. The mpc 1000 i picked will do the same thing(just a step down in price).

need more.... how about a demo video of the mpc 1000(go down to mano 1's post 1/3 of the way down on the screen)
http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149911&highlight=video

how about another demo video that shows what you can do when you add a keyboard.(it also shows more of the mpc function in your studio). watch whole video
http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152525

OK now that you are totaly hooked since i gave you 8 months knowledge in one post........................

who is your best friend now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
p.s when you get rich remember me with cash not thoughts. and add rep to me now.
 
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damn it i forgot the monitors!! i have failed :(
here you go add $150...........sorry! These are self powered so you need no amp. just hook them to the back of the focusrite and control the volume on the front(i like these better than the $99 m-audio monitors)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/KRK-RP5-Rokit-Powered-Reference-Studio-Monitor?sku=602312

$139 over the 1884's price (still not bad) if you shop around you can prob get it below the 1884's $1299 :D

i am still cool right :cool: ! lol

I will even go a step further add $199 and get a Korg Kontrol. You can play drums on this(plus it gives a light show for your friends) and it has a pad to distort sound. YOUR FRIENDS WILL THINK YOU HAVE QUITE THE SETUP (AND YOU WILL). But why bother telling you in type here is a video(only about 5 seconds of the Korg).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHXUaVWi7kE&mode=related&search= do NOT get this instead of the mpc. i consider it an add on to the mpc(have i steered you wrong yet?) just dont be like this guy and move the pad SLOW to destort ANY sound. I repeat DO NOT SKIP THE MPC 1000 OR YOU WILL REGRET IT!
the possibilities are endless. Is your brain melting yet?

and you dont half to waste a shitload of money on the best computer just get a decent one

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...CategoryId=pcmcat47300050001&id=1149204286684

and add a hard drive big enough for lots of tracks(run your xp on the factory one to keep thm seperate)
http://shop3.outpost.com/template/harddrives/

and add memory this should do
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4565617

and set your computer up for recording only
http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center/techtips/d--06/06/2006

you will have a 2.4ghz processor with :eek: 3GB of ram :eek: and 500gb hard drive for $784
 
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mpc 1000 video

Total kick ass rap studio grand total
.fast computer
.firewire(better than usb)interface
.mic
.cubase le (for recording)
.a GREAT top of the line bottom end Production Center Sampler
.all cords and cables
.self powerd monitors
.and pos a korg or add it later
$2,211 and $2410 if you add the Korg(i just threw that in for fun) ;) alot of guys(trust fund babies) spend more than that on just a mic :rolleyes:
if you dont have all the loot go to the bank and try for a personal loan. even if your credit is shitty it never hurts to try :D

OH GOD!!!! I see you came into the HR forum right thru the studio building and display forum door. I would stay out of their until you know whats going on those boys will eat you, and your pocket book alive. Just hang blankets on 3 sides of you. drape the mic right above your nose by the wire and make a pop filter out of coat hanger and pantyhose. Remember its not what you have its how you use it. get all of your gear and start making beats before you start looking at how to perfect them. you gotta take this one step at a time. Some of those guys in studio building spend 10 years and $100,000 building a almost finished dream studio and still have not recorded one thing. keep that in mind ;)

i would love to see the look on his face when he watches the video of the mpc in action. I got $10 that says he dry humps his computer.( or maby thats just what i would do because im nuts) :p
i have an even cooler video of it somewhere, But my firefox browser favorites list is very long and sub-grouped :eek: Also i am now tired.

well, hope this all helps, sure wish someone would have done a post like this for me when i started out:( and i am still a beginer too :) no one ever masters recording we all just learn more every day.
have a great day!
 
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wow, thanx for all the info as well undergroundtoon. and yeah i have heard of M. Elizondo. anyway, i have not checked your setup yet, just read your posts now. thanx to all that are helping me in this long process.

and believe me when i get rich, there'll be too much cash to spend myself, so who knows. thanx everyone. cheers!!
 
I really like my 1082 and if I could have afforded it I would have gone with the 1884 (more inserts, more outs, more assignable buttons etc).

Wordclock is something which synchronises all of your digital gear so that all audio samples are in sync with each other.

Both of the tascam units has it's own internal word clock but you can attach external (better quality) word clocks to either unit so I'm not sure what you meant there.

Having said all that I think either might be overkill for your needs, do you really need 8 simultaneous ins, 4 mic pres etc for recording rap?

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone when they buy gear that they'll have to spend some time learning how to use it. The 1082 has totally changed the way I record (for the better) but like everything there's a learning curve.
 
I have a 1082 but I've only used it a few times but it seems very decent for what I used it for.
The only problem is it isn't supported under Vista the last time I checked. Tascam told me to check their site for updates well that was over 6 months
ago. Anyone know if their are any drivers to use this with Vista yet?
 
Frankly speaking, I don't have any of them they are pricy for me, but my frind Jeffer has got a Tascam FW1082, and she was satisfied with it.
 
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