Sydney Group buyers (pre's/mics)

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How many of us are there?

Just wanted to see if you guys wanted to combine shipping? I don't know how much/little we'd save, but it might be worth considering. We could meet and exchange details so there is some level of trust. Or would it make it difficult?

Please discuss.
 
I'm in Sydney......live in Camden, work in Blacktown but can pick up from anywhere over the w/end :p

Sound like a great idea. ;)
 
Check with Chance but I think somewhere he mentioned that the manufacturer could do a drop ship. That should save you a lot.
 
I'm at the top end of the F3 in N'cle, however, I don't know that I'll be involved in a GB. Spare dollars are scarce and at this stage there doesn't seem to be much I'm interested in, maybe the "lollipop" ribbon if they run again.

Chance had mentioned the possibility of shipping direct from China and I emailed him info regarding Customs, etc. but to do so would mean he would probably have to have a different costing schedule for anything not going via the US..........all in all, quite a bit more work for him so it may not be viable.

:cool:
 
I signed up for your PT meet-up but unfortunately/fortunately I'm flying to Brisbane that evening to see Wilco!! Will be at the next one tho'.
 
It certainly is! I wish I could have made it to Byron as well - as it is I'm so friggin busy at work that I have to be on the first flight back to Sydney on the 20th :(
 
How many units are we talking guys. Lets try to do the math. If Chance wants to do direct from China shipping then we need to know if its an advantage or disadvantage. He still seems open to the idea.

There may be some recalculation of pricing due to cheaper shipping and no USA import duty.
We will pay 5% duty and 10% GST because the order wil be over $1000.00.
Some of Chances postage quotes are upwards of $500.00 to Aus.
Registered Postage from 1 location in Aus is very cheap. Eg, I sent a mic to Gold Coast from Sydney recently registered post for $12.
I have warehousing and storage facilities to offer provided the Duty and GST are covered in advance.

If we could rally all the Ausies in the GB from all the forums to 1 location and calculate the approximate value of our orders and split the taxes between us I believe we will save even more on this GB.

Don't get me wrong, I still believe, even with the postage from the USA, that this is an excellent deal, but it would be nice to save even more. I may even buy more stuff. I have puposefully kept my order under $1000 inc postage.

Cheers

Peter Houghton
 
I've got two pre's and 8 mics ordered current value is $1,071.37 USD

Wouldn't direct shipping China>Australia be easier for chance it would then take out him having to process a whole bunch of australian orders? I'm just speculating, I know ausrock has discussed this before and I believe it didn't go ahead
 
Peter,

Your offer of facilities, etc., is generous.

I think each local person involved in the GB has to look at the volume and value of their individual order and firstly, approximate a shipping cost, then decide whether they're going to be over or under the $1000 import duty limit.

Any form of bulk/combined shipping regardless of where it's from is going to attract certain costs and to be fair, the amount each person involved contributes, should be proportional to the value and weight of their portion of the shipment. For someone like me who is only considering a couple of mics, it is questionable as to whether there would be any advantge in joining a combined shipping group.

As I understand things, the prices listed include shipping and import duties to the US............now if we're all going to be fair, honest and all nice things like that, Chance should adjust these prices an appropriate amount for orders shipping direct from China to the final destination country..........this means having multiple prices listed for each item in the GB. It also means that he's going to have to keep seperate order records for each "shipping group" so as not to impose incorrect importation charges, etc. We then have to rely on the manufacturers, knowing that Chance is not receiving the goods, to not take advantage of the situation.

Sorry if I'm kinda "raining on the parade" but whichever way I have looked at this over the last few months, I see additional administrative workload for Chance and questionable or indeterminate advantages..............consequently, I tend to like the KISS principle and apply the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it".

ChrisO :cool:

EDIT...........wreckd replied while I was typing this out.
 
I understand fully the ramifications. Chance is the one who has been offering to do this on the PSW forum. I quoted him in the other thread.
Most certainly proportional payments are the only fair way to do it. If, for example, your order was only $100.00, You would then pay the $15.00 charge on top. If $1000, then $150.00 and so on. Provided, at the end of the day I have 15% above the total I would have to pay customs then it's fine.
What needs to be determined is will Chance do it or not. That's up to him. Depending on the numbers it may well save him a lot of work at the other end.

Cheers

Peter
 
Oh, and my current order is

2 x 73 pres
2 x 310
1 x 1200
1 x 900

Value USD $772.71.

Cheers

Peter
 
ausrock said:
if we're all going to be fair, honest and all nice things like that, Chance should adjust these prices an appropriate amount for orders shipping direct from China to the final destination country..........this means having multiple prices listed for each item in the GB. It also means that he's going to have to keep seperate order records for each "shipping group" so as not to impose incorrect importation charges,
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If thats an issue, I don't mind paying the amount chance has listed as the price+shipping from china, as it stands that is still dirt cheap. If that saves chance the extra work, and get's us cheaper shipping.

I mean how much could shipping from china > australia be?

gb list price + shipping from china = ?

gb list price + shipping from usa = ?


if chance [and the manufacturer is willing] surely the first would be cheaper even if you were only getting a few mics. Again all speculation depending on chance, the manufacturer and shipping prices from china. Just an idea though.

Somehow we need to keep a running total of the aus buyers to see if there are enough of us to make it worthwhile. So far I count three me, ausrock and tunetown amounting to a total order pf about $2k US
 
tunetown said:
There may be some recalculation of pricing due to cheaper shipping and no USA import duty.
We will pay 5% duty and 10% GST because the order wil be over $1000.00.
Some of Chances postage quotes are upwards of $500.00 to Aus.
Registered Postage from 1 location in Aus is very cheap. Eg, I sent a mic to Gold Coast from Sydney recently registered post for $12.
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Don't forget that you'll be paying almost 5% duty on that if you have Chance do it. There's a 4.9% import duty when it comes into the U.S. from China. I don't remember if Chance builds that into the initial price or the shipping cost.
 
As far as I know the prices quoted were landed in USA. So, i'm assuming all charges have been accounted for in the original prices.

Cheers
Peter
 
I just thought of something. The quoted prices includes the shipping from the manufacturer (to the USA), duty, dock fees, broker fees, and wherehouse/forklift charges. I already have an idea of these costs, but to drop these costs and estimate the charges to other countries would be next to impossible for me to estimate. The shipping charges from the manufacturer must be paid along with the gear. The shipping charges to three different countries would be hard to calculate for this buy because we are so far into it already. I have some people working on it still. We do have a few months and I am open to suggestions. I feel for you guys and will continue to work on this.
 
chance said:
I just thought of something. The quoted prices includes the shipping from the manufacturer (to the USA), duty, dock fees, broker fees, and wherehouse/forklift charges. I already have an idea of these costs, but to drop these costs and estimate the charges to other countries would be next to impossible for me to estimate. The shipping charges from the manufacturer must be paid along with the gear. The shipping charges to three different countries would be hard to calculate for this buy because we are so far into it already. I have some people working on it still. We do have a few months and I am open to suggestions. I feel for you guys and will continue to work on this.
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Not trying to be a smart arse but these are the factors that I've been (continually) hinting at being the problems with multiple shipping destinations ex China, as a matter of fact, I seem to recall refering to something along these lines in an email I sent you months ago.

Chance, you already have more than enough to do and after the Paypal episode you really deserve to have a clear run to the finish of this GB ;)...don't lose sleep over this issue.

:cool:
 
The shipping from China to the USA would be more than Australia. What if we left the price the same, so there is no need for any calculation and asked them to send X amount to Australia instead.
 
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