Sub kick wiring

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if memory serves, a speaker from a guitar cab won't do much as they have roll offs appropriate for a guitar. you would get the best results (in most situations) if you used a full rage speaker such as a PA speaker or one in a bass cab.
 
What you need is a speaker that is relatively easy to move. Guitar speakers tend to be tight.
 
I also made a sub kick .and I used a cymbal stand to hang it ( the ride stand)
in the tom is a vent with a brass collar I just put a crap load of big washers
to hold it.thing looks cool and matches my drum set.it just takes a guitar cable
to plug it in. It sounds awsome.I think It sounds better than an EV20.
 
I have access to a free 15" speak from an old bass cab, i was going to do this project any reason to think the larger speaker would perform poorly? Too big to move well or anything?
anyone use a sub kick for and extra bass cab mic, or would that be overkill?
 
15" would be too big. 15s might work for jack hammers and jet planes. ;) Most guys are using 6" and 8" speakers with the 8" drivers out of the Yamaha NS10s as the "famous" version of this home brew trick.

As for using it on a bass cab... worst case it sucks and you don't use the track. Worth a shot I suppose.
 
Farview said:
What you need is a speaker that is relatively easy to move. Guitar speakers tend to be tight.
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Yep, you need a speaker that is highly compliant (think "easy to move with your hand".) Musical Instrument speakers tend to have a really stiff suspension, and you need a "loose" or soft suspension.

So, what you need really is a stereo speaker of some type - and it needs to be outside of the box.
(In a sealed box, I found out it increases the tension of the suspension on the speaker.)



Tim
 
I just tried creating a sub kick using an old Yamaha Keyboard combo amp (12 inch speaker). I hard-wired and XLR cable to it and ran it directly to my board. The signal was just a tad too hot. I then ran it through my DI box before sending to the mixer and viola! The signal was just right. I threw a beta 52 half-way inside the kick. The difference is quite amazing. I didn't mess with the beta placing inseide the kick much. The sound attained with the sub kick is attainable with a regular mic, but its definitely easier in terms of time and trial/error to add the sub kick rather than spinning your wheels with placement. It had just the right amount of "click" and just the right amount of "omphh." Attack + roundness/fullness. Also, BTW, I used an e609 on snare for the first time because it was the mic nearest to me...sounds pretty damn good; the sm57 might be unemployed for a while...
 
I wired up a 6'' old bookshelf speaker to a QTR cable and ran it into my Yamaha MG10/2 mixer. However, my signal is just not strong enough to produce a decent volume for recording. I think my old speaker is too stiff to capture decent waves. It was from the thrift shop so I guess I got what I paid a dollar for.
 
Hi, I wired an old battered Mckenzie 12" speaker to a 1/4" TRS to a balanced DI out to a TL Audio valve pre into my AKAI DPS24. I also used my trusty AKG D112 to compare with. Amazing results!! The subkick itself really adds that low end thump(think 65-90Hz) . Used with the AKG I have probably my best kick sound ever. And it cost me €0 !!

happy Christmas

Cormac
 
When we went into the studio this summer, the engineer was having a bit of trouble getting the right sound out of the kick. For whatever reason, this *ever so slight* overtone from the reso head was being picked up by every kick mic he threw in there. The kick sounded awesome in the room, but it just didn't work with the mic. When he'd aim it away from the reso, he'd lose the annoying overtone, but he'd also lose the OOMPH of the kick. Very strange... this was never an issue when miking live...

He was getting ready to pull the reso head off of the drum, but I just grabbed a 15" floor monitor, set it on end in front of the kick, and ran a 1/4" cable into a DI box. Told him to try that. Voila! The oomph was back, and we were able to continue on our day. We had a gig that night, and I didn't want our drummer stressing about messing with the head.

PS - later, he found out the problem (don't recall what it was right now), and pulled the monitor away from the kick, saying he was getting what he wanted from his mic and didn't need to use the speaker.
 
I have read this applications works best when compressed mult. times ( comp, then comp again, then once more!)and yes have the sub mic as your additional to your normal setup. Invented back in Beatles sessions I believe.
 
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