studio quality reverbs

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hi people,

I'm in dire need of serious reverbs and delays and all sorts of vocal fx cos the plugins I have now just don't cut it.

I have been looking at the mpx 1 @$700, but I need to know if the high end software fx can compare to boxes like the mpx1 or tc m-one.

I know the advantages of having software is that you can put the fx on every channel, but if it doesnot sound right, then....

I need help from you guys, especially those who have a/bd
software versus boxes.

'precc.
 
Hi CyanJaguar,

what Software do you use?
The Waves Trueverb is very common and I like it very much.
It depends mostly on your CPU power, but I personally like to have some Hardware, because then I don´t have to switch on the computer all the time and don´t have to care about latency etc.
There is also a Freeverb spread through the net, which I heard is of good quality. Most of the FX has to be adjusted very well, they don´t have presets or they don´t sound as needed.
 
hi Eebaf,

I use the sonic foundry reverb and chorus and delay,
and while they sound useable(chorus is definitely not useable), I have not been able to duplicate one reverb that I have heard on a pro song.

I also have freeverb, which is also useable but I still cant get it.

I just changed my monitoring postion and my amplifier(but not the Ns10ms) so that now, I can hear MOST of the reverb tail, and it seems that the well recorded songs have a warmer tail, or something, that I just cant duplicate, and when they have long lush tails, the reverbs still work well.

help
 
Hi again,

maybe it helps: did you try to use an EQ just before the reverb plug-in?
 
hi Eebaf,

Yes, I mostly use eq before the reverb.

By the way, I was messing with Freeverb and the Sonic foundry reverb last night, and I have to say, freeverb is a much better sounding verb than the sonic foundry verb.
 
Hi Cyan,

I didn´t found the Sonic Foundry on my PC, I think I threw it away. Try the waves true Verb that will sound like the MPX1 and MPX 500, M-one is the same class.
There is a new Waves "Renaissance Reverb" coming out that will sound like the PCM 91 and 81.
But to get professional Reverb out of a plug-in you need to experiment with different filters early reflection times etc...I doubt if the SF will do for you.
If you can afford it buy a pcm 91 or 81 they ´re kinda studio standard

CU
 
Lexicon, best model you can afford. I don't think there is anything better.
 
The PCM81 is a really really nice unit. It has some really great reverbs for snares, and some amazing plate reverbs. get it if you can afford it.
 
Lexicon for sure...

But the MPX 100 has to be the least adjustable one I have ever seen!

For a short time, they made the Reflex unit, which was the next version basically of the LXP 1. The problem with both units right out of the box was that you had to KNOW where you were at in the editing function to KNOW what you were editing, no fancy LCD display unit to show you.

Look around for a LXP 1, 5, or 15 (basically the 15 has all the algorythyms of the 1 and 5 together in the same box). With the LXP 1 and 5, you can get the MRC controller and actually see on a fancy LCD display what you are adjusting, and the MRC is small enough to fit atop your console somewhere so you can adjust the parameters remotely on the unit with ease and without leaving the sweet spot. The MRC can also control just about any other effects unit that allows midi contollers to control it (most of them).

I bought a LXP 1, 5, and MRC controller about 4 years ago for $300 total from another studio. The LXP 1 is STILL my main reverb unit. It sound much more like what I want to hear then my Quadraverb 2, Quadraverb, digitech Studio Quad, and many other units that cost a whole lot more.

I am not sure that you will find the Alesis reverbs to be all that hot. I don't care which unit you are considering by them, they just don't have that nice warm, gritty, ear pleasing reverb that you want to hear, and that you hear on many fine sounding productions. If some of you use them and like them, well, have at it, but, for cheap, the Lexicon LXP 1's, 5's, Alex, Reflex are great buys, and contain the famous reverb sounds that many higher dollar Lexicon units have, just with a bit less parameter control, and usually a bit lower quality converter.

Good luck.

Ed
 
thanks guys,

I talked to a sweetwater sales engineer and he basically told me the same thing. Lexicon rules. BUt he wanted to sell me the mpx1 for $750 when it can be had for $700 brand new and $500 used. He got mad at me when I said I had seen it for $700.

I will check the lxp on Ebay, and if they are right, I will grab one.

I can't afford a new pcm81, but I have seen a used pcm80 on ebay for $800 and I think they are about the same as the 81 ?
 
yes..the PCM80 and 81 are in the same ballpark...but $800 on Ebay....that was a pre-ending price....like maybe the first couple of bids or so. If you can find one for under a grand, I'd say you got a deal (in price).
 
studio update

ok,

Well I could not get the mpx 1 that I had bid on at my price($510).

So in my impatience, I used "buy it now" to get an lxp 1.
I was listening to sonusman's work at the time and that justified it.

Anyhow, if I can't get the sound I want out of it, then there is no hope(I am also upgradeing my cables to monster).
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Does anybody know where I can get an mrc controller for my lxp-1? for not too much money?

thanks
 
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