Studio Projects VT1- Preamp

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anyone got an opinion on this thing? my impression of it is that it is kinda chinsy...though, I like what SP is doing overall - so..anyone got anything to say about it? I don't think i've ever heard it discussed much on these forums...i guess that says something. heh
 
Wow, bad reviews already and the unit has not even been shipped. "kinda chinsy.... Gotta love HR...:D

Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
 
the VT1 is incredible.....purely amazing qulaity....close your eyes and you are running thru a SSL and 2" tape......this VT1 does for digital audio what Toyota did for the automobile industry.....

ps...Alan ill email you my address to sned my my complimentary unit.....
 
Gidge said:
the VT1 is incredible.....purely amazing qulaity....close your eyes and you are running thru a SSL and 2" tape......this VT1 does for digital audio what Toyota did for the automobile industry.....

ps...Alan ill email you my address to sned my my complimentary unit.....
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Sorry Gidge, despite what some of these threads say, I do not hire or pay off plants....:)

Alan Hyatt
 
Alan - "kindy chinsy" was just my impression from the picture on the website - nothing more. Something about the way it looks...I dunno.... I guess I just like "cleaner" looking things. I have no idea...just consider it sometype of market research. hehe. When I saw the picture i thought "its trying to hard"

Not saying ANYTHING about the product. like i said...I like what you guys are doing and am sure it will sound good. Didn't know it wasn't released...that would explain the lack of discusion ;)
 
Please don't tell me it has one of those little "windows" or whatever where you can see the tube glowing.

Now that would be cheeze. Hurry up with that thing, will ya, Alan! I'm beginning to think Bin Laden will become a converted christian and have coffee with the pope before this and the rnmp ever come to market! And the dmp3 is on your heals. I can hear the footsteps.
 
The thing i wanna know is whether it´ll be able to compete with the FNR RNPM pre, if not im definately getting the rnmp. So alan, what do ya think? Is it the big clash of the "bang for the buck" manufacturers? Or will the RNMP beat the VT-1....If the RRNP is anything like the RNC i think it will, but thats just a guess.
So what do ya think?
 
QUOTE:........."The thing i wanna know is whether it´ll be able to compete with the FNR RNPM pre, if not im definately getting the rnmp. So alan, what do ya think? Is it the big clash of the "bang for the buck" manufacturers? Or will the RNMP beat the VT-1....If the RRNP is anything like the RNC i think it will, but thats just a guess.
So what do ya think?"


Now there's a nice big juicy bait, on a sharp hook...............with Alan's name all over it.

God, the questions some people ask these days:o

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alanhyatt said:
Wow, bad reviews already and the unit has not even been shipped. "kinda chinsy.... Gotta love HR...:D

Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
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Exactly my point, Alan I don't like when you post replies regarding your products but there's so many individuals on this site that for whatever reason decide they want to base opinions on nothing but "it looks chinsy" and other unsubstantiated merits.I can't believe anybody that has any common sense, why they would buy a product of any kind based solely upon what people say here on the bbs.It's nothing but bullshit!!It looks chinsy, give me a break, who cares!!What if the damn thing sound's better than a neve, trident Api,Avalon,etc. and when you get it it's built like a tank?Isn't it all about the sound anyways?Man,the way people throw there opinions around here regarding Alan's products or any other products on the market without actually having them and using them extensively before posting opinions good or bad about them is ludicrous.No wonder Alan's got to defend his products, people are bashing them before they hit the streets.I bet the same individuals are more worried about how many lights,knobs buttons,etc. they get with a unit versus what functions they serve.Alan,I currently do not own any of your products but before I post any opinions and or reviews about your products I'll make sure there's a little fact and not all fiction.God for bid,there's enough on this site already!!
 
wes480 said:
Alan - "kindy chinsy" was just my impression from the picture on the website - nothing more. Something about the way it looks...I dunno.... I guess I just like "cleaner" looking things. I have no idea...just consider it sometype of market research. hehe. When I saw the picture i thought "its trying to hard"

Not saying ANYTHING about the product. like i said...I like what you guys are doing and am sure it will sound good. Didn't know it wasn't released...that would explain the lack of discusion ;) [/QUOTE

Well, you did Wes!! you said it looks chinsy without any merit,I could say the RNC looks chinsy because of it's size and wallwart plug but guess what.Who cares, the damn thing is amazing at what it does!Compress......
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yep...I did say it. and, meant it...I am just saying that what i said doesn't carry any weight - nor was it supposed to. The fact is if it sounds good..then i want it no matter what it looks like. 2 things made me post what I did

1.) I didn't particularly like the look of it - sorry..first impressions..
2.) I had never heard anything about it on here - the SP site didn't say anything where I was reading (or at least I didn't read) that it wasn't released.

So, putting two and two together, my thought process went something like "hmm...interesting looking piece..havn't heard anything much about it - maybe it wasn't well recieved? hard to believe an SP piece wouldn't be good..guess I will post something about it"

Thats how it went. Not defending that thought process..its just the truth. I wish I were more objective about first impressions...but I am not. And I probably do put too much stock in what people say on boards like this. However - when it comes to actually buying something...I like to think I get objective about it at *some* point before I spend the cash.

At any rate - you are right, i shouldn't have said what i said in the way I said it.
 
Alan, I think highly of you and your company. Marketingwise, I think you score a homerun in the customer service department. If it came down between your product and someone else's, I might just pick yours because I know if it blew up, that I could send you the shrapnel, and you would fix or replace it -- no questions asked.

Now I hate to be critical, but I am a marketing person, so I think I'm qualified. If it weren't for your customer service record, I'm afraid your marketing would be a complete disaster. Wes 480's comment is a very good example of what can happen if you wait too long to launch a product after you've already started hying it. This comment pretty much says it all:

"I don't think i've ever heard it discussed much on these forums...i guess that says something. heh"

Marketingwise, this is a no-no. You see, you've successfully generated some hype and got people talking about it. Only problem is, the hype has already died out, and now your product is "yesterday's news" before it has even been released! So don't be surprized if people who don't know any better assume it's a lame product. They don't hear people talking about it anymore!

Mistake number 2 - In a lot of ways, you might think to yourself "Well, the RNMP isn't out yet either, so I'm off the hook." Two wrongs doesn't make a right, Alan. The fact that FMR audio has been dragging their heels should give you all the more incentive to beat them to the marketplace. You should have looked at as an opportunity to capitalize on.

Everyone's already got their cheap mics, Alan. Now they NEED something GOOD to plug them in to. Why do you think you're seeing so many "Best mic pre under $X?" threads on this and other forums? As soon as those threads die out, so has your opportunity to corner that market. And all of your C1 customers will own Mackie mixers and Audio buddies. Time's a-wastin'.

You were already riding the peak of your success with the C1 as early as a few months ago. I'm sure the reviewers would have been eager to say some nice things about the VTP-1 if it was deserved. This would have created even more momentum, and before long, people would have been saying "FMR Audio? Aren't those the compressor guys?".

Hire me as your marketing person, Alan. It's not too late to straighten this mess out. Before long, we'll have people calling the RNC "the VTP1 of compressors."
 
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I have to agree with Wes in regard to first impressions.........my initial thoughts were that SP had to be joking, cause this thing is ugly........I mean it has a face only a mother could love. Sorry Alan, no intention of calling you a mutha*%##$ there:) .
My impressions were based on a background in visual design and asthetics, which kind of effects the marketing of a product.

But what is important is HOW IT SOUNDS, this will be the telling factor.

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Shhh! I took a VTP-1 out of the Studio Projects factory,
and will compare it to my Neve and SSL board pre's shortly.
(don't tell Alan)
 
F O R G E T T H E G E A R L E A R N T O HONE YOUR OWN SKILLS FIRST.

A Person with know how and experience will go farther then a person with none and all the coolest flavours of the month.


Next hands up any of the knockers who have designed or marketed any piece of audio gear of any kind any takers ???


I myself recently was put straight by a number of people i feel know better then i do on this very subject of owning every cool piece of gear and if anything at least i looked at what they had said and i learnt a few things which will assist me now with what it is i really need as aposed to all i thought i needed.


Alan markets his gear who cares if he does it in here after all this is a place we talk about gear and also make informed choices based on user reviews and also what people own or have owned stuff all the politics bagging and bs either buy the product or wait till someone else buys it then make your mind up but bagging people who do something you cant do does nothing for anyone

YOU included.
 
Ok guys...ease off. I never said I was a cosmetic genius..:D

I tried real hard to make the unit in the USA. I took some 10 months to get it ready, and when I was ready to push the build button, the price changed to me. Well, let me tell you what happened. What happened was I choose a contract manufacturer who Fuc*ed me is what I did, other wise this unit would have been out already.

So, off to China it went and that takes 5 months by the time they get the files, a sample and they ship. Did I learn a valuable lesson...you bet, but what can I do? We are rushing it as fast as we can. It has a big V on the front panel made out of drilled holes. Blue LED's are behind the tube, so you don’t see the tube that much but you see the blue light emitting out of the holes.

I will be dammed if I say anything about its sound, but if you have specific feature questions...I'm there. Here is a picture of it. If you like it...fine, if not fine. It costs too much money and there are only so many designs you can do with a small box, besides, ugly woman can cook like God's, so ugly boxes can have a good side to you. So you will still have to wait and find out for yourself, if that good side holds up to your expectations. :D
 

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Alan,

How are the "tube drive" electronics implemented? Is it a starved plate (low voltage) effect box deal, or an actual full-voltage gain stage?
 
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