Studio Projects different DOTS?

[crazydoc]

Yeh sorry, I thought you were recommending me to an American dealer (which seemed kinda strange ) But yeh Iv heard of Front End Audio, they are in Canberra i believe? I might as well just say it - I ordered the mic from Allans music in sydney. Like i said tho, im not sure it was even their fault. Ill give them a call tomoro and see if they can help. If they wont, Ill get back to you Alan, and many thanks for your kind help - I cant believe Im talking to the owner of SP. I bow down in your presence, you make such awesome and affordable mics!!

The other complication is that my original B1 is the superceded version - i.e. without the noise pad thing. When I ordered from Allans they especially tracked me down a superseded model to match mine, but they said it was the last one existing from the Australian supplier! So my only other option for getting the right dot colour may be to get a new model with the noise pad - which I would suspect would have different electronics and thus defeat the whole purpose of trying to make my pair match. Your thoughts?

The plot thickens. This seems to have nothing to do with Studio Projects - manufacturing or distribution.

It's too bad you started your thread like this:
I ordered a second Studio Projects B1 condensor, so that I can stereo match them for drum overheads. First they sent me the wrong mic...then after specifically asking for a green dotted mic, they've sent me the right mic but with the red dot colour. Fools!"

Studio Projects goes above and beyond in customer satisfaction, as evidenced by Alan's posts here. I suggest in the future you get your ducks in a row before you start shooting off at someone.

 

[Big Kenny]

Hey Alan,
I've got some water in the basement. Could you come over and check it out? I bought five of your mics and like 'em all.

 

[ausrock]

I might as well just say it - I ordered the mic from Allans music in sydney. Like i said tho, im not sure it was even their fault. Ill give them a call tomoro and see if they can help.

Hegs,

If you specifically requested/ordered an early series "Green Dot" B1 from Allans Music, then they should have either supplied the correct item OR contacted you and explained why they couldn't. The catch is, you don't know what they actually ordered from FEA in Adelaide.........if their order was "Green Dot" specific/accurate and FEA supplied the "Red Dot", then the problem is with FEA, however, it is possible that Allans screwed up the order at their end.........personally I wouldn't trust either of them to own up to making a mistake.

 

[alanhyatt]

Hey Alan,
I've got some water in the basement. Could you come over and check it out? I bought five of your mics and like 'em all.

On my way with the pump!

 

[alanhyatt]

The other complication is that my original B1 is the superceded version - i.e. without the noise pad thing. When I ordered from Allans they especially tracked me down a superseded model to match mine, but they said it was the last one existing from the Australian supplier! So my only other option for getting the right dot colour may be to get a new model with the noise pad - which I would suspect would have different electronics and thus defeat the whole purpose of trying to make my pair match. Your thoughts?

No matter, old or new, the sensitivity is the same on the ones with or without the pads....and just remember, the match is not exact, but pretty darn close....

 

[Hegs]

Crazydoc i have no idea what ur talking about..it could quite possibly be to do with SP distribution. But im not here to play a blame game, i just wanted to get this sorted out. Anyway I think I'm just gonna keep my red dot one because I couldn't be bothered with the effort of returning it and waiting for my new one. Thanks heaps for ur help, and Ill keep u posted if I change my mind or anything like that.

cheers

 

[Treeline]

Hi,

I ordered a second Studio Projects B1 condensor, so that I can stereo match them for drum overheads. First they sent me the wrong mic...then after specifically asking for a green dotted mic, they've sent me the right mic but with the red dot colour. Fools!

What is the deal with using different coloured dotted mics for stereo recording? Is it a big deal or should I take it back (which involves time and effort)?

many thanks

Very simple. Go to the kids section of your local WalMart and get some acrylic paint. As green is your thing, go ahead and get some green. Then get a little paintbrush.

Open the paint and spill just a little bit into a saucer. Using the paintbrush, after having dipped the soft end of the brush in the green paint, paint over the offending dot until it is green. Set the box and the mic aside and put the top back on the jar of paint. Wash the brush and the saucer in lukewarm water until they are clean and put them in the dish drainer to drain.

After the paint is dry, you will have two packing boxes bearing the same color dots and can sleep easily.

 

[ausrock]

Very simple. Go to the kids section of your local WalMart and get some acrylic paint. As green is your thing, go ahead and get some green. Then get a little paintbrush.

Open the paint and spill just a little bit into a saucer. Using the paintbrush, after having dipped the soft end of the brush in the green paint, paint over the offending dot until it is green. Set the box and the mic aside and put the top back on the jar of paint. Wash the brush and the saucer in lukewarm water until they are clean and put them in the dish drainer to drain.

After the paint is dry, you will have two packing boxes bearing the same color dots and can sleep easily.

WTF???

 

[alanhyatt]

WTF???

I don't get that post either....

 

[Gidge]

seems like a good solution to me.....

 

[Harvey Gerst]

This is all too fucking silly !!

Hegs,

Do you have one of those tuners that can put out an audible note? Put it right against the grill of one of the mics and note the reading in dB on a meter scale. Adjust the gain so that you're reading like - 3 or -6 DB on the meter.

Now, without changing anything, disconnect the mic and plug the second mic into the same channel and put the tuner up against the grill. See whether the meter has changed, and note the new number. Get back to us with both numbers.

Let's first see if there is a real problem before we get too crazy here.

 

[Robert D]

That's confusing to me. When I was a sailor, green=starboard and red=port.

I was referring to channel markers and doing a word play on the old saw "red right returning", which as you know means keep the red markers or bouys to starbord when entering a channel from seaward, or returning to port. You are quite correct that a vessel's nav lights are green on starbord, red on port. Why is it "was"? Navy?


Hegs - If you feel a little more ambitious, try sending test tones of 100 hz, 1Kz, and 10 Khz out of a monitor at a low-moderate level. Record the three tones to each mic using only one preamp, making sure to replicate the mic position. Then you'll have a crude curve of the two mics.

 

[Hegs]

Yeh Harvey, as i stated in an earlier post thats exactly what I did...and the result was about 2db in difference, and a slight tonal difference. So my question was then as you suggested - do you think this is enough of a difference for me to be concerned?

 

[ausrock]

Hegs,

Listen to Harvey before you listen to me but my take is that the level and tonal differences should be able to be accomodated with input gain, faders and EQ.

From what you've said, I gather you are doing "mail order" with Allans Music.......IOW, I don't know your location but it appears to be too far away to deal with them personally. You did say you were going to contact them again and see what they had to say about the issue.......or did you just scrap that idea?

 

[Harvey Gerst]

Yeh Harvey, as i stated in an earlier post thats exactly what I did...and the result was about 2db in difference, and a slight tonal difference. So my question was then as you suggested - do you think this is enough of a difference for me to be concerned?

Doesn't sound like anything a little gain and slight eq changes can't fix. If I really wanted a matched pair (for recording a string quartet, for example), I'd change out the lower level mic and try to get a closer match. If I were just using them for drum overheads, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Mr. Antrobus]

I was referring to channel markers and doing a word play on the old saw "red right returning", which as you know means keep the red markers or bouys to starbord when entering a channel from seaward, or returning to port. You are quite correct that a vessel's nav lights are green on starbord, red on port. Why is it "was"? Navy?s.

Navy? Actually I used to race sailboats on the Great Salt Lake in Utah. Oddly enough, one of the other racers we used to compete against was a fellow named John Johnson of Dod/DigiTech.