studio projects b1's as overheads

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hey all
i read on here that someone was using studio projects b1's as overheads
is this a good idea and, if so, why?

also are there any mics that spring to mind when you think of binaural recording?
 
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I prefer my MXL 603's for overheads to B1's. Just my opinion, they're a bit cleaner on the cymbals.
 
thanks guys,
every time i go to ask another question now i get paranoid because it's probably out there somewhere on the forums, and even though i've trawled them for hours, sometimes the exact information you require isn't available...
 
amarach said:
thanks guys,
every time i go to ask another question now i get paranoid because it's probably out there somewhere on the forums, and even though i've trawled them for hours, sometimes the exact information you require isn't available...

I preface any technical questions for a discussion board, especially my first few, with a quick summary of what I have done to find an answer myself. In this cast, the search feature would have kicked back "B1" as being to small a "word," so you get a pass... this time! ;)
 
Dot said:
Absolutely. B1's are great on OH's. They're also killer on toms. So, when/if you ever upgrade OH mics, you can drop the B1's down to tom duties.

Here's a thread that's over three years old where we tested a bunch of mics on OH's...
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=75145

Dan, with all due respect, but I have to disagree about the toms. It might be a decent tom mic in a jazz situation, but I've tried them on toms in a rock band and that was way too boomy.

B1's as OH in a jazz recording were awesome, they were not in a rock recording. In that situation I prefer the C451 or KM184 in an ORTF or DIN placement, KM184's are really killer mics.

For toms I seem to come back to the good old MD421 MK1 everytime, even the M201, M88 doesn't cut it as good as the 421.

On floortom the old AKG D12 can be absolutely great if you like low tuning and a boom like a thunderstorm, plus the rejection is very great.
 
Han said:
Dan, with all due respect, but I have to disagree about the toms. It might be a decent tom mic in a jazz situation, but I've tried them on toms in a rock band and that was way too boomy.

B1's as OH in a jazz recording were awesome, they were not in a rock recording. In that situation I prefer the C451 or KM184 in an ORTF or DIN placement, KM184's are really killer mics.

For toms I seem to come back to the good old MD421 MK1 everytime, even the M201, M88 doesn't cut it as good as the 421.

On floortom the old AKG D12 can be absolutely great if you like low tuning and a boom like a thunderstorm, plus the rejection is very great.

And those mics are in a way different price bracket. If you can't get a good tom sound out of a B1, I think you have a different problem (joke).
 
Big Kenny said:
And those mics are in a way different price bracket. If you can't get a good tom sound out of a B1, I think you have a different problem (joke).

That one is really funny! Though most peeps here won't understand why! :D

(he's referring to the C1000 thread guys)

But you have a point, the KM184 is expensive, in a way, but inexpensive in another way. It simply is so much better sounding than the cheap LCD's that are flooding the market these days. Not to mention the Schoeps, DPA, Sanken and kind of the same quality mics.
 
Han said:
But you have a point, the KM184 is expensive, in a way,

I guess it depends on your vantage point. I would call them a low to mid priced microphone. I do like the 184s on cello, but that is about it. like the km84s much better. The 184 sounds incredibly bright to me.
 
The B1 is mostly a cheap toy that is fun to play around with ... if you're a budding amateur recording artist or engineer fiddling around in your basement or bedroom, making bad MP3's to post on your myspace site so you can hit on 14-year old sluts.

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chessrock said:
The B1 is mostly a cheap toy that is fun to play around with ... if you're a budding amateur recording artist or engineer fiddling around in your basement or bedroom, making bad MP3's to post on your myspace site so you can hit on 14-year old sluts.

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that's a good home studio tip for the teenage recording enthusiasts around here.
 
i've gotten quite usable results out of a B1 on OH duty, as well as snare duty. never tried it on tom, but given my kit, i think it might pick up a little too much "everything else".

certainly i've got mics that i like better for the job(s). but in a pinch, the B1 will do.


cheers,
wade
 
Last saturday we recorded a rock band and the sound of the bass guitar is killer. A B1 in front of the cab and a DI have worked perfectly.
 
chessrock said:
The B1 is mostly a cheap toy that is fun to play around with ... if you're a budding amateur recording artist or engineer fiddling around in your basement or bedroom, making bad MP3's to post on your myspace site so you can hit on 14-year old sluts.

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You realize, of course, that you just sent sales of the B1 through the roof.
 
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