Spot the difference.

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Hey all.
Got two bounces of the same song here.

There may be slight variations in some of the levels, but ignore that if possible.

Does anyone hear any difference in the overall sound of these tracks? Quality, tone, width, anything like that?

I assure you they are different, but I don't wanna say why just yet. It's not a trick though. :p


The tracks are here.




you might wanna download them and side-by-side them in your daw. Your call.

Thanks in advance.
 
On a quick listen, the low end of the guitar sounds much more 'full' on #2. Though I am not able to drop em in DAW at the moment.

Are you playing with a new toy? :D
 
I didn't spend too much time on it, but it seems to me that PS2 has a little fuller, but subtly robust overall sound. Maybe a little more reverby.
 
It was hard at first Paul until I played both tracks simultaneously then to my surprise the song was very full bodied --if that is the definition that I'm looking for -- and sounded more like your work.
Still can't quite put my finger on it ..... maybe each track is an X/Y of a stereo recording? One track is a Parallel compression?
 
No, that's not it. They aren't meant to combine or anything like that.
 
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One thing I noticed was the background vocal that starts around 3:25 is panned slight right on PS1 and it's pretty far left on PS2. Also sounds like there's another vocal in there panned differently as well.

I'm at work listening on cheap sony headphones so I could be missing something else. Tonally everything seems to be the same.
 
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79_Les_Paul said:
One thing I noticed was the background vocal that starts around 3:25 is panned slight right on PS1 and it's pretty far left on PS2. Also sounds like there's another vocla in there panned differently as well.

I'm not at work listening on cheap sony headphones so I could be missing something else. Tonally everything seems to be the same.
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You're right, There are definitely variations in the levels of some of the parts.

You're pretty much where I am; I'm struggling to hear any overall tonal differences.
 
Well, since it fell off the first page I may as well put this one to bed.

The song was mixed in Pro tools and sent to four stems.
Guitar, vocals, lead guitar and flute/violin.

PS1 is an analog sum through 8 ward beck mic/line modules.
PS2 is a digital sum straight out of Pro Tools.

TBH, I'm a little bit disappointed with the results.

I mean, the analog sum sounds clean as fook to me, so I've got 8 clean preamps for sure, but they didn't really impart much character as a summing mixer.

I did like having the real time control; i think I'd gain a lot from that method of bouncing in the future, but not with a view to getting a more preferable tone or overall sound to digital summing.
 
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I can't really hear much difference between the two steenamaroo, but my speakers aren't great...and neither are my ears.
 
Maybe i need to experiment with how hard I drive them and stuff like that.

I don't know summing protocols....it's all new to me!
 
yeah ive give this a listen, fair enough through my krk's, and I cant hear an improvement in tone


mind you i have tape sim plugs and unless the outputs driven I cant detect a difference...cloth ears I guess and a shit room but nevertheless i though Id hear something
 
Ah well.

I'm planning to rackmount my 22-2 with the other gear, so when i get ears fabricated I'll spend some time and maybe do a few mixes, or samples at least.

Maybe a difference would be more apparent on a busier mix....idk.

Thanks for the comments all.
 
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Ah well.

I'm planning to rackmount my 22-2 with the other gear, so when i get ears fabricated I'll spend some time and maybe do a few mixes, or samples at least.

Maybe a difference would be more apparent on a fuller mix....idk.

Thanks for the comments all.
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Listening on Adam a7x. Maybe its because I read the results, but I did think the first was a hair smoother, almost like a very tiny bit of tape sound.

People rave about Studer tape sims, IDK, what are you after?
 
I duno if you're just drawing a comparison or not, but just to be clear, neither of my clips went to tape.

Tbh PDP, i racked these modules up primarily as mic pres (and love them as such) but i kept line inputs and spare outputs too just for options on down the road.

I've recently wired them up for summing purely out of interest really.

If they give me another option, something different, then i figure it's an option worth having, but on the strength of this test I'm not convinced.
 
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I duno if you're just drawing a comparison or not, but just to be clear, neither of my clips went to tape.

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Drawing a comparison to the sound, but like I said if I hear difference its minute.
 
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