speaker cable for live sound

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I need to get a couple speaker cables for connecting powered mixer to speakers, small venue, 200W system, 20' or so length. I figure there's no reason to pay for Monster in this situation. Does 12 gauge v. 14 v. 16 matter? Copper v. Nickel plated v. gold matter? Is CBI okay? Horizon? Radio Shack (kidding)? Others to suggest.
 
Go to home depot and get some 12, that should be fine.
 
Slim - which PA setup did you go with? The wife and I are putting the band back together and I'm looking too.


Bob
 
Bob-

This is what I decided to do, based on happenstance and research but without listening to all the candidates which I what I really should have done:

I got the Mackie 406M powered mixer. I had tried one at a friend's house and it seemed good to me; plus I nabbed one (new) on ebay for $420, which is $150 less than the lowest prices you see on the net. I wanted the eq and effects capabilities it has also. You can spend a little less or a lot more. People who use Mackies always seem to like them, although audiophiles seem to hate them and tell horror stories about them (even though audiophiles are full of extremely helpful knowledge, I always take their conclusions with a grain of salt since they hear things that 99.9% of the population doesn't).

Anyway, I think the speakers are going to be more important in determining the sound. In my experience the type of 15"/2" speakers that Mackie, Yamaha, etc etc peddle for use with small powered mixers are inappropriate for small acoustic acts. Much too boomy and boxy. My research confirmed that such a set up sacrifices mid-range and vocal clarity. I settled on the Electro Voice Sx100+ speakers, which I ordered for $301 each at fullcompass. They are 12" bottom and 1" titanium horn (it works for golf clubs at least) and the specifications at least made it seem like EV thought about what it was doing. EV isn't a sexy brand but the few people who I ran into that have used them loved them. And they only weigh like 33 lbs. You can spend much more on EAW, Bag End and the like but I think I'm getting quality.

Also the Mackie is 200W (they advertise it as a 500W mixer but actually it's 250 per channel at 8 Ohm, which means 200 at 4). And the EV is rated at 200W continuous. I'm told that if the speaker's capacity is too high in relation to the amp power it taxes the speaker; likewise, unless you are a pro, it's dangerous to hook up speakers to an amp that dwarfs its capacity.

I'll let you know how it sounds....
 
Sounds like you've got a good setup. I especially like the 33 lbs. part! These huge Yamahas I have weigh a ton! You haven't lived until you've humped one of those down a wet boat dock on a handtruck.
We're just a duo, so I'm going to downsize the whole PA, now that smaller is cheaper and more powerful!
Good luck-

Bob
 
Good luck to you too Bob.

BTW, I'm pretty sure that the answer to the question I asked on this thread is that for my application 12 gauge would be overkill, 14 gauge would be best, and there's no reason to spend the extra money for Monster or the like.
 
LI Slim said:
Anyway, I think the speakers are going to be more important in determining the sound.
This is absolutely true. Loudspeakers are almost always the weakest link in any audio chain. They seem so simple, but linearly converting electrical into mechanical into acoustic energy continues to be the most difficult task in audio.

I scratch my head over it every day.:)

barefoot
 
>12 gauge would be overkill, 14 gauge would be best,

Not at all! The difference in price between these two wire sizes is almost nominal when you're just talking about ordinary speaker wire and not some MONSTrosity in a fancy box with a long spiel about "Oxygen Free" and "better than a magic marker on the edge of a CD"....

So get the 12 gauge- it'll be stronger overall. No, I don't think 200 watts is gonna start a fire in a 14 gauge wire, but from the standpoint of setup and teardown: go with the 12.
 
LI Slim said:
Also the Mackie is 200W (they advertise it as a 500W mixer but actually it's 250 per channel at 8 Ohm, which means 200 at 4).

Uhh. How did you calculate that?:confused:
 
Actually I got it backwards. It's 250 per channel at 2 ohms, 200 at 4 ohms and 125 at 8 ohms
 
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