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Using either a pod 6 or the output from fender princeton solid state, what are the top sound cards for getting this audio info into my audio files. Price is not a factor. Which is the the best and why?
dabluesman
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Check out this link! Ron G's Soundcards and Computer Audio Interface Reviews
I'm using the M-Audio Delta 66 (Its the same as the Delta 44 on that page but has an added S/PDIF I/O) M-Audio cards have great A/D D/A converters and great all-around sound quality.
I'm using the M-Audio Delta 66 (Its the same as the Delta 44 on that page but has an added S/PDIF I/O) M-Audio cards have great A/D D/A converters and great all-around sound quality.
Slackmaster2K
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You really shouldn't say price is not a factor, because it always is. Really you could spend thosands of dollars on a top of the line converter, but you probably won't if you're thinking about using a POD or running your amp direct.
Why would it be better? Because it would sound better. Same as in an analog system.
So what price range are you looking in?
Slackmaster 2000
Why would it be better? Because it would sound better. Same as in an analog system.
So what price range are you looking in?
Slackmaster 2000
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Hix
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Sound cards
Right after I posted my original thread I found a Site that linked me to the Midiman site. I was looking at the delta 66 and it appeared to be a top of the line card. If there is a card out there that costs thousands it's probably because the board is an older model. Prices have come way down. However, what is the top of the line board with out regard to price? I also plan to mic the Amp, that is a consideration. I'm also not worried about how many inputs a board has, just the ability of the borard to proccess high quality sound. Are there any important spec's overlooked by most buyers. Thanks.
Right after I posted my original thread I found a Site that linked me to the Midiman site. I was looking at the delta 66 and it appeared to be a top of the line card. If there is a card out there that costs thousands it's probably because the board is an older model. Prices have come way down. However, what is the top of the line board with out regard to price? I also plan to mic the Amp, that is a consideration. I'm also not worried about how many inputs a board has, just the ability of the borard to proccess high quality sound. Are there any important spec's overlooked by most buyers. Thanks.
Gidge
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Slackmaster2K
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If you're for real, then get outboard converters and a digital soundcard. Here you go, $2886 for eight channels:
http://www.macmidimusic.com/lucadson24bi.html
And then a decent digital card for $435:
http://www.macmidimusic.com/rmedighamlig.html
...but that's the light. If you want to run an external clock you'll need the full DIGI9636 and of course the clock itself which is far from cheap.
The delta66 is not a top of the line card. It is a popular card because you get 4 analog channels for a good *PRICE*. The converters are better than cheap soundblaster shit, but they're *far* from transparent.
The LynxOne is a two channel card starting at $400 and the converters are highly recommended by at least one of the professionals on the board...and the price isn't too bad considering.
Bottom line is, you can always get more quality for more money. For a couple hundred thousand dollars you could have enough quality gear to compete with professional studios!
Slackmaster 2000
http://www.macmidimusic.com/lucadson24bi.html
And then a decent digital card for $435:
http://www.macmidimusic.com/rmedighamlig.html
...but that's the light. If you want to run an external clock you'll need the full DIGI9636 and of course the clock itself which is far from cheap.
The delta66 is not a top of the line card. It is a popular card because you get 4 analog channels for a good *PRICE*. The converters are better than cheap soundblaster shit, but they're *far* from transparent.
The LynxOne is a two channel card starting at $400 and the converters are highly recommended by at least one of the professionals on the board...and the price isn't too bad considering.
Bottom line is, you can always get more quality for more money. For a couple hundred thousand dollars you could have enough quality gear to compete with professional studios!
Slackmaster 2000
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The Delta 66 is a nice audio card. On the personal studio side, thigns have gotten cheaper, yes... However, when we talk about things that cost thousands of dollars, we are not talking about some old technology that has now been replaced by the M-Audio line of cheap hardware. We're talking about products by companies like Apogee that are really far beyond normal consumer audio products.
Most of the high end boards get around the problem of converters by replacing them (or supplementing them) with digital inputs... for example, the Frontier line, and offerings from Digidesign, MOTU, Creamware, and most other companies offer either S/PDIF digital ins and outs or ADAT digital ins and outs, because on the pro level, outboard A/D and D/A converters are vastly superior to the converters that can be included on an affordable PCI card.
The process of putting together a system that uses professional quality converters and digital clocking mechanisms can easily run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. That has nothing to do with outdated technology. It's not jsut age, but quality that determines the price stratification in audio gear. The reason there are such expensive audio converters is the same reason that a vintage 24-channel Neve board will always be worth more than a 24 channel Mackie board.
So to answer your question, at the high end I would use either a Digidesign card with a high quality clock source, and the Apogee AD-8000 converter with the AMBus Pro Tools interface, or a Creamware Pulsar card with the Apogee AD-8000 and the AMBus ADAT interface, and a high quality clock source, or a MOTU 2408 with the Apogee AD-8000 and the AMBus ADAT interface.
Any of these systems will run you 6000$ just for eight converter in channels... to get 8 outputs you'd add another $1250. Then add your audio card, for around 2-3000$, and a nice clock source for 1000$ more. And it never really ends...
Most of the high end boards get around the problem of converters by replacing them (or supplementing them) with digital inputs... for example, the Frontier line, and offerings from Digidesign, MOTU, Creamware, and most other companies offer either S/PDIF digital ins and outs or ADAT digital ins and outs, because on the pro level, outboard A/D and D/A converters are vastly superior to the converters that can be included on an affordable PCI card.
The process of putting together a system that uses professional quality converters and digital clocking mechanisms can easily run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. That has nothing to do with outdated technology. It's not jsut age, but quality that determines the price stratification in audio gear. The reason there are such expensive audio converters is the same reason that a vintage 24-channel Neve board will always be worth more than a 24 channel Mackie board.
So to answer your question, at the high end I would use either a Digidesign card with a high quality clock source, and the Apogee AD-8000 converter with the AMBus Pro Tools interface, or a Creamware Pulsar card with the Apogee AD-8000 and the AMBus ADAT interface, and a high quality clock source, or a MOTU 2408 with the Apogee AD-8000 and the AMBus ADAT interface.
Any of these systems will run you 6000$ just for eight converter in channels... to get 8 outputs you'd add another $1250. Then add your audio card, for around 2-3000$, and a nice clock source for 1000$ more. And it never really ends...
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