Sonic Albert - You mention layered reverb?

[Dr. Jeep]

I am posting this as a new thread so that others can contribute. In regard to pro vocals - you said use layered reverbs.

When you say layer the reverbs - do you mean creating 3 seperate busses with seperate verbs - then route the vocal in various amounts to each bus? Or do you mean setting up 1 bus with three stacked verbs? I kind of do the first way now but only with 2 - a tight Room verb (which I am coming to appreciate more and more because it doesn't get muddy) and a nice plate for some trail.

On the same topic - do you have rule of thumb for applying verb throughout a mix so that it adds body but not wet mud prevelant in amateur recording?

 

[gullfo]

a quick example (for me at least) would be the reverb unit (usually very little but some) in the guitar amp, the reverb I will likely place on the track to add some dimension to it (maybe a convolution, Lexicon, Sontius, or Classic Reverb), and also an overall "room" reverb (SIR, PerfectSpace, Waves, or even Sonitus reverb) that most of the instruments feed to kind of "gel" it together. I may have a seperate bus for background vocals with a reverb (Waves, Sonitus) that then feeds into the main bus plus a send to the room reverb.

 

[SonicAlbert]

I don't have much time to reply right now, but I am talking about using three different aux sends. Each send would go to a different reverb, probably in different amounts in order to blend them as you see fit. Most likely the reverb times would be the same or a multiple of each other (and the tempo of the song).

 

[Dr. Jeep]

What style of reverbs do you set up towards this end? Is there an example you can reference?

 

[dcwave]

I'll use the room on a True Verb (kill the verb leaving the room and the pre delay) and then have a Ren Verb with a nice verb tail.

 

[SonicAlbert]

I'll use the room on a True Verb (kill the verb leaving the room and the pre delay) and then have a Ren Verb with a nice verb tail.

I've done this kind of thing too, using the early reflections from one reverb and the tail from another.

However, layering is different. I like layering in general, and also like to put individual reverbs on some parts as well.

It's kind of hard to give specific examples, since what to do completely depends on the track. It would also be difficult to duplicagte what I do unless you have the same gear. I don't use reverb plugins, for example.

One reverb combination I used that I liked a lot was layering a Lexicon PCM-91, TC Electronics M3000, and Klark-Teknik DN780. One of my favorite combinations is to layer the PCM-91 with the TC M3000. I guess the basic principle behind that is that the PCM-91 is a bit thicker and is a "noticeable" reverb, while the M3000 is cleaner and less obvious. Together, they both kind of fill each other out a bit.

 

[Creamyapples1]

This isn't quite to the same extent you guys are talking, but from a low budget, small setup standpoint. I've used the verb in Cakewalk on certain tracks, mixed in a bit from the onboard effects on my console and through the main mix, threw a microverb right before the recorder. Like I said, probably not ideal, or even great, but it gets some really nifty vibes, esspecially being able to tinker and tool around on the first two verbs per track then dropping in verb across the mix.