Song Recorded (Almost) Entirely With SPB1 and SPC1

[Robertt8]

I know there's much talk on this board about the Studio Projects B1s and C1s (everyone seems to either love them or hate them), so i figured I'd put up a tune our band has done using nothing but a B1 and C1 (save the snare drum (Shure SM57), the bass drum (Audio Technica Pro25, which seems to me to suck greatly) and the bass that was DI through a Berhinger Bass-Vamp)

Studio Projects B1: All acoustic guitars, 1 overhead over drums (near/above snare), Shakers and other percussions

Studio Projects C1: All Vocals, 1 overhead over drums (near/above toms)

http://bagoftoysmusic.com/share.html

I believe these mics can do a damn good job for their price.

 

[ermghoti]

Excellent sound. How did you mic the acoustic? My B1's sounded pretty weak on my Martin.

Do you have the ATM25? Mine is a great kick mic, so I can't imagine we're talking about the same thing.

 

[billisa]

What a great example of what can be done without having the most $$$ in gear. What was this recorded on? PC? DAW? Whatever, nice work!

 

[Robertt8]

ERMGHOTI: Hey thanks. The acoustic used for the rhythm was a Big Baby Taylor, the Acoustic used for the lead parts was a Larrivee LV-03E, but both were mic'ed in roughly the same place...with the B1 about 5 inches away from the 12th fret angled slightly towards the sound hole. This seems to (at least for me) get rid of a lot of the boomyness, yet still have a good tone.

Actually, my kick mic was an AT Pro25. That might be the difference. I don't think they even make that anymore. It tends to sound really distorted. I'm not sure if i got a bum mic or what, but I think i would have been better off just using one of my SM58s. at least those don't distort like this one did.


BILLISA: Hey thanks for checking it out. Here's the list of what was used...

Mics: Studio Projects C1 and B1, Audio Technica Pro25 (only on bass drum), Shure SM58 on snare
Pre-Amp: M-Audio Audio Buddy
Outboard Compressor: Behringer Ultra Dyne Pro
Recorder: Roland VS-880EX
Guitars: Big Baby Taylor (main rhythm), Larrivee LV-03E (leads)
Bass: Modulous (my bass players)
Bass DI: Behrninger Bass V-Amp
Drums: Whatever that his set is...just bass, snare, high-hat, 1 tom, 1 cymbal

This was about as bottom of the line type gear that i thought i could still get a fairly decent sound.

 

[Robert D]

Very nicely done, and a testiment to those mics..... not to mention your recording skills. Fantastic job of illistrating what can be done with todays inexpensive but good quality gear!

-RD

 

[billisa]

This was about as bottom of the line type gear that i thought i could still get a fairly decent sound.

You got way past fairly decent.

 

[guitarboi89]

better than a LOT of "professional studio" recordings... and a good song too
i like it, also the the bit at about 2:40 when the vocals go strange.. ROCKS

 

[mhelin]

This shows that in good acoustics (room) you don't need that much stuff (like many mics) to get a good recording made.

 

[ermghoti]

Bel Aire sound on ghetto gear, that's what I like to hear! Surprised to see the EX on that list, for sure.

The AT Pro is a consumer line, the ATM is the good stuff. I bought mine, used forabout $60 at GC (package deal). They are only about $130 new. For rock or other hard-driving stuff, I still grab my D6, but the ATM lets the drum speak in its own voice. If I could only take one kick mic for a recording gig (not live sound), I would probably take the ATM, due to its flexibility.

You could also grab a Soundworks Kickpad for $100, and use your 58. The clips I've heard on the web are quite servicable.

 

[Robertt8]

Hey thanks guys, but in all fairness, i just wrote and recorded the songs. I've got a guy mixing our CD down in So-Cal right now and this is one of the nearly finished tunes he sent back. It wouldn't sound quite as professional if i were doing it, which also illustrates the importance of the mixing (and the reason we're using a pro to do it for our first CD). But, I do believe that these mics are quite suitable to get a very good sound, and would personally be hard pressed to REALLY notice THAT much of a difference from mics that cost 5 times more.

 

[alanhyatt]

Thanks for putting that up...Were happy! Catchy tune as well...

Its all about the song, talent, room, and ability. The brand of things used to make the recording is secondary, but I am glad it was our mikes that you chose to use.

I think a free SP pop filter and cable is in order for that one. Send me your address Robert.... Send to alan@pmiaudio.com

 

[02o [Otto]]

thankz for posting this, i am about to start a project only using the sm57 and Sp b1, i just got my second b1 today, My Grandfather is in the Rockabilly hall of fame and i listin to some of the stuff he did and the songs that made him famus in the Rockabilly seen, boy o boy if grandpa only had a sp b1 a few sm57's and a firepod, his stuff would sound 10 times better then the songs he has on every rockabilly compalation cd there is, im just fine using these mics its all i can aford and im convinced they will do just what i want im glad to see other people think so also, thankz for sharing this

Robbie Cliff/otto

 

[Robertt8]

ALANHYATT: Thank you sir. That was certainly not my intent (to get free stuff), but I'm not one to turn down an offer like that either. Thank you very much, and thanks for the great affordable mics!

02o_[OTTO]: You bet! Hey! That's pretty kick ass that your grandfather is in the Rockabilly hall of fame! Nice! Is that that type of music you do? Yeah, the gear we have at our finger tips is (in many cases) far better and cheaper than what he might have had to record with. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing Rockabilly was not (in those times) recorded in impressive old studio's with top of the line gear (when were his records made?). It was probably something done in some little radio station, studio or back bedroom. You can get a very good sound with some very affordable gear these days, and the B1/C1 (only SP mic's i've actually tried) seem to do a pretty damn good job of capturing the sound. Good luck with everything!

 

[02o [Otto]]

art/music

Robbertt8
hi there, im not sure where the recordings were done i found a website with some info on the recordings well not to much info, though u can click on the little speaker and her i bit of the song, or the camera to see a pic of the record , i didnt realy know much about him becuase i was adopted though my moms mom saved this one pic of him and the band for me and a news paper artical on his death, then i found his music being traded online about a year ago, it does sound like it could have been doen at a radio station who knows, one of the labels is Horseshoe, and the other Drift, i think they were both in Portland Organ and the song were recorded in 1958, my music is not realy like his though i can here some of him in my tunes for sure, and i just found this guy had re recorded Shake um up Rock and they were opening up with the song last time they were in Japan, if im corect he was the guitar player for Morrissey back in the day http://www.bozboorer.com/ and here is the link on Benny Cliff u can hear right away on the recordings what im talking about with the quality, it would be cool to know what mics were used and all that jazz though i dont think i will ever find that info http://rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/artists/c/clif1000.htm
hey i like the music u guys are doing its real cool, its being master right now right?
peace Robbie Cliff/020

 

[Robertt8]

Hey otto, sounds like you've got some interesting research you can do on your grandfather! good luck!

actually, our music is still being mixed right now. The guy mixing it is giving us a REALLY low price, so we're kind of stuck with him doing it in his free time. Hopefully in the next month he should have everything done. We've got our masterer all picked out, and he's apparently done some major acts, so hopefully this will sound good...we're starting to get antsy to get this puppy done!

 

[Herm]

Good tune, Good players. Good sound, and I like it that you did it on a 8 track.
Good job!

 

[Nick The Man]

I know there's much talk on this board about the Studio Projects B1s and C1s (everyone seems to either love them or hate them), so i figured I'd put up a tune our band has done using nothing but a B1 and C1 (save the snare drum (Shure SM57), the bass drum (Audio Technica Pro25, which seems to me to suck greatly) and the bass that was DI through a Berhinger Bass-Vamp)

Studio Projects B1: All acoustic guitars, 1 overhead over drums (near/above snare), Shakers and other percussions

Studio Projects C1: All Vocals, 1 overhead over drums (near/above toms)

http://bagoftoysmusic.com/share.html

I believe these mics can do a damn good job for their price.

and what kind of pres


what mixer?

just let me know what all your stuff is cause this is a great recording

 

[Nick The Man]

BTW the talking in the beginning is very cool

 

[Nick The Man]

oops nevermind i didnt see your other post

 

[Adam P]

You could also grab a Soundworks Kickpad for $100, and use your 58. The clips I've heard on the web are quite servicable.

Just wanted to mention that I think you meant Earthworks Kickpad, just in case he wanted to run out and get one...might go crazy trying to find it otherwise!

Great sounding song!