tubedude
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I recently had 3 projects run all over each other, and ended up with around 25 songs to mix at the same time (talk about stressing out).
Now, I love Sonar for the most part. It is solid and does what it does well without getting in my way, but for the occasional error.
But here is what kills me, and wastes TONS of time. Maybe I'm missing something and i hope I am, but if not then this should have been addressed in Sonar 1.
1st.. 25 songs... I get em all mixed where I want them, now I have to bounce them all down. This can be quite time consuming with 20+ tracks and numerous plugs open.
Next, I want to save each song to a .cwb file on a CD.
This sucks and wastes a TON of time becuase I have to save it as a .cwb, then I have to burn the Cd from the location I saved it to (desktop for easy reference) and burning a big ass .cwb takes a few minutes too.
Next, I have to delete the saved .cwb files from desktop and the project files from Sonar, and then go to the recycle bin and toss them.
My suggestion for these gripes: a function that will allow me to choose all the songs in a project (say, 8 songs), and either bounce them all down to a stereo track, a .cwb, or both at the same time while I go watch TV or play guitar or eat or sleep.
Then a fucntion that will allow me to export them all at once to say, a folder on the desktop.
I could save a TON of time if I could pick 10 songs to save as .cwb files and walk away and do whatever else I wanna do.
Instead, I gotta babysit and thats bullshit. Waste of time bullshit and I hate it.
There has got to be a better way. If there is, tell me.
Next gripe: there is no reason in HELL that when I finish a take on the last song of the day, and the band says "can we get a CD real quick so we can plan our next move" that I cant pick the songs I want and burn them as they are FROM Sonar directly onto a Cd without bouncing down and all that crap. Do you know how much it sucks after a 14 hour session to say "well, umm, ok but you'll have to wait 3 minutes per song for me to bounce them down, another minute for me to export it someplace and then another minute for me to get them all into a Cd burning program and get THAT rolling too. 30 minutes at least, unacceptable.
Thats bullshit. The efficiency comes to a standstill and suddenly its all slow going crap, especially when you are wore out and in a bad mood and ready to be done.
I should absolutely without any question be able to open a "burn CD" window from Sonar, drag and drop the files from the cakewalk projects window that I want into the BURN CD window and click BURN and be in business. A rough draft of the songs in their current state, no bouncing, no bullshit, no wasting time. This is not asking too much, this is a simple need that should have been met a long time ago. This is a need, not a want, and I doubt I'm anywhere near the 1st to have this problem.
25 songs is taking me FOREVER to bounce down, then save as a .cwb, then export the actual bounced track elsewhere, then burn a cd from the .cwb, and then mess with all the bounced stereo tracks in ANOTHER program and move them all in seperately, and then render them all AGAIN down to 16 bit with whatever effects I wanted on the whole lot (via Wavelab) and THEN move them to a CD burning program to get THAT done.
Damn. What a pain.
Sonar should do all that shit. At least keep it all native. I should be able to do my "mastering" and burn CD's directly from Sonar. No ifs, ands or buts. I should not need a seperate CD burning software OR Wavelab.
The efficency stops when you are done mixing. Or, when you need a quick on-the-fly copy of a song or a group of songs. God forbid its a whole group of songs. You'll be all damn day.
I'm done.
Now, I love Sonar for the most part. It is solid and does what it does well without getting in my way, but for the occasional error.
But here is what kills me, and wastes TONS of time. Maybe I'm missing something and i hope I am, but if not then this should have been addressed in Sonar 1.
1st.. 25 songs... I get em all mixed where I want them, now I have to bounce them all down. This can be quite time consuming with 20+ tracks and numerous plugs open.
Next, I want to save each song to a .cwb file on a CD.
This sucks and wastes a TON of time becuase I have to save it as a .cwb, then I have to burn the Cd from the location I saved it to (desktop for easy reference) and burning a big ass .cwb takes a few minutes too.
Next, I have to delete the saved .cwb files from desktop and the project files from Sonar, and then go to the recycle bin and toss them.
My suggestion for these gripes: a function that will allow me to choose all the songs in a project (say, 8 songs), and either bounce them all down to a stereo track, a .cwb, or both at the same time while I go watch TV or play guitar or eat or sleep.
Then a fucntion that will allow me to export them all at once to say, a folder on the desktop.
I could save a TON of time if I could pick 10 songs to save as .cwb files and walk away and do whatever else I wanna do.
Instead, I gotta babysit and thats bullshit. Waste of time bullshit and I hate it.
There has got to be a better way. If there is, tell me.
Next gripe: there is no reason in HELL that when I finish a take on the last song of the day, and the band says "can we get a CD real quick so we can plan our next move" that I cant pick the songs I want and burn them as they are FROM Sonar directly onto a Cd without bouncing down and all that crap. Do you know how much it sucks after a 14 hour session to say "well, umm, ok but you'll have to wait 3 minutes per song for me to bounce them down, another minute for me to export it someplace and then another minute for me to get them all into a Cd burning program and get THAT rolling too. 30 minutes at least, unacceptable.
Thats bullshit. The efficiency comes to a standstill and suddenly its all slow going crap, especially when you are wore out and in a bad mood and ready to be done.
I should absolutely without any question be able to open a "burn CD" window from Sonar, drag and drop the files from the cakewalk projects window that I want into the BURN CD window and click BURN and be in business. A rough draft of the songs in their current state, no bouncing, no bullshit, no wasting time. This is not asking too much, this is a simple need that should have been met a long time ago. This is a need, not a want, and I doubt I'm anywhere near the 1st to have this problem.
25 songs is taking me FOREVER to bounce down, then save as a .cwb, then export the actual bounced track elsewhere, then burn a cd from the .cwb, and then mess with all the bounced stereo tracks in ANOTHER program and move them all in seperately, and then render them all AGAIN down to 16 bit with whatever effects I wanted on the whole lot (via Wavelab) and THEN move them to a CD burning program to get THAT done.
Damn. What a pain.
Sonar should do all that shit. At least keep it all native. I should be able to do my "mastering" and burn CD's directly from Sonar. No ifs, ands or buts. I should not need a seperate CD burning software OR Wavelab.
The efficency stops when you are done mixing. Or, when you need a quick on-the-fly copy of a song or a group of songs. God forbid its a whole group of songs. You'll be all damn day.
I'm done.
), add the eq tweaks, comp, whatever if needed, export it as a 16bit. Chop it off. Skip the other program. (hell i do my masters in ackus)Do it on the final run through of the songs befor you go to the next. All the wav's will be there ready to burn. 
