Sonar glitches with Echo Mia WDM driver!

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I thought I made very good puchase
with Mia, but now I feel little
disappointed. I tried to play with
Livesynth Pro and some soundfonts,
but occasionnally I heard some crackles
and glitches. It was the latest driver
6.07 and Sonar 2.2. I even tried Mia
ASIO driver and result was much better,
no glitches. But ASIO is acting very
strange in Sonar; If you want hear and
play DXi/VSTi then Sonar must be running. If you press stop then you
won't hear any sound in Livesynth.
If you want to put reverb in aux send
in LS, audio stops and dropouts.
I want to use WDM driver with Sonar
without glitches! What's the solution?
 
mace said:
But ASIO is acting very strange in Sonar; If you want hear and play DXi/VSTi then Sonar must be running. If you press stop then you won't hear any sound in Livesynth. If you want to put reverb in aux send in LS, audio stops and dropouts.

I want to use WDM driver with Sonar without glitches! What's the solution?
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It should be enough to just have the Audio-Engine running (hit Transport -> Run Audio). I have used both ASIO and WDM-drivers in Sonar, and the only difference I found was that ASIO woulnd't let you do punch in recording the same way as WDM-drivers...
 
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moskus said:
It should be enough to just have the Audio-Engine running (hit Transport -> Run Audio). I have used both ASIO and WDM-drivers in Sonar, and the only difference I found was that ASIO woulnd't let you do punch in recording the same way as WDM-drivers...
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I really don´t know but it seems that ASIO Echo driver won't work in Sonar!
Have anybody else tried to run Echo Mia with ASIO in Sonar?
Maybe I have to test it again today, but yesterday it was disaster.
I will explain; I just tried to start with loop (loop explorer auto-play didn't work,
only if you press play you can audition loop in loop explorer) and it played OK,
just added fxreverb to Aux in Console. That was Ok, but I wondered quite high
reading in Cpu meter (about 10% and CPU is Athlon XP2000+) and tried
to raise ASIO buffer size. Seems that with ASIO it takes little bit more CPU?
then I launched Livesynth and I wondered there's no sound at all (and
In Sonar taskbar read "Audio Stopped"). I press play and after that I could
play Livesynth!? I tried to add reverb to Livesynth and audio stopped
And Dropout!!!??

Anyway, I'd like to use Echo WDM Driver as the recommend in Sonar.
Would it help to increase I/O buffer size in Sonar?
I think it was 64 kbit!
 
Sounds like you might need to increase your latency settings or increase the number of buffers (or buffer size).

Some combination of the above should help the problem. Start by raising your buffer count to 3 (assuming it is now set at 2). If you still have problems, slide the latency bar to the right a bit.

The above should help with WDM and ASIO problems.

You might also want to look at optimizing your machine.
 
...sometime, all the good things you need to do is just restart your computer :)
 
Mace,

Heed the good advice given to you above.

And don't blame the Mia, it's one of the best audio cards available. It certainly has the best signal to noise ratio of the sensibly priced audio cards.

There is no possibilty thet Echo Audio would release an audio card on the market without testing it with the major sequencers and with ASIO drivers.

Do as Dachay2Tnr & Moskus say. They both know this stuff inside out. And as James Argo says, sometimes you just need to re-boot the puter.

And don't forget to re-run Wave Profiler after each and every tweak in CakeWalk.

--
BluesMeister
 
BluesMeister said:
And don't blame the Mia, it's one of the best audio cards available.
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And don't blame Sonar, it's one of the best audio programs available. ;)
 
Sonar & Mia: excellent partners!?

moskus said:
And don't blame Sonar, it's one of the best audio programs available. ;)
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Yes, guys, you are both right, Sonar is the best!
And that´s why I chose Mia, one of the best of the
semi-pro cards, if not the best! ( Waveterminal 192x
looks indeed quite tempting)!

Actually, ASIO is working now, but there's something
peculiar with WDM driver!

I have to test a little bit more.
 
dachay2tnr said:
Sounds like you might need to increase your latency settings or increase the number of buffers (or buffer size).

Some combination of the above should help the problem. Start by raising your buffer count to 3 (assuming it is now set at 2). If you still have problems, slide the latency bar to the right a bit.

The above should help with WDM and ASIO problems.

You might also want to look at optimizing your machine.
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Thanks Dachay,

I have tried quite many things and settings, latency and buffers.
Yes, I have done all optimization possible, no games and
other crap in my PC!

Yes, I tried buffer 3, but it didn't work!

This is very good forum and you guys are very cool!
 
Mace,

What MOBO do you have? And how much RAM do you have? I'm wondering if you have a VIA chipset which may have known issues with the Athlon.

--
BluesMeister
 
I use the VIA-chipset, and if you haven't upgraded the Via 4-in-1 driver, do so... Then your computer should work problemfree!
 
RAM and Mobo is OK!

BluesMeister said:
Mace,

What MOBO do you have? And how much RAM do you have? I'm wondering if you have a VIA chipset which may have known issues with the Athlon.

--
BluesMeister
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Hey Bluesmaster,
It's a long way to Western Australia from here Finland!
I noticed Moskus is in Norway, heh, much nearer.
Do you know that World Championship games in Hockey
starts today in Finland!
But I think that hockey isn't number one sport in Australia!

I have Epox 8K7A+ mobo with AMD761 chipset,
but I have too installed Via 4 in 1 driver (they recommended
it in Epox/AMD sites). Heh, I think I have enough RAM
with 1024 Mb DDR266 ram! Do not believe that there's
incompatibility (and as I told ASIO works well, other
audio and applications too). IRQ's should be allright,
Mia is IRQ 11 and SW1000 XG is IRQ 10.

I have SW1kxg connected to Mia's digital in. I think that
Mia's input clock should be s/pdif and sample rated clocked
to 44.1 khz because of sw1kxg?
I tried other settings too (clock internal and rate not clocked)
but without any difference.
 
I'm not very into icehockey, so I can't say I'm excited... ;)

And what happens if you don't route the SW100XG to Mia, is it any difference at all?
 
Sonar glitches still with v.6.08!

so sad that problems are still here with me and
yesterday I got blue screen of death in Sonar 2.2,
might be that Echo Mia was quilty for that!

Would it help to change ACPI to Standard PC?
I'm thinkin' IRQ conflicts, but basically all seems fine,
Mia is IRQ10 and SW1000XG is IRQ11.
Indeed, SW1000xg works so sweetly in Sonar that
it makes me think why in hell I purchased new card
and bitter thought comes to my mind little by little;
was it good purchase at all?
All other programs works fine, Reason with Mia ASIO
is OK, and I even downloaded Cubase SX demo to test
how Mia's ASIO driver works in Cubase- it was nice!
But it seems that WDM driver is problem in Sonar!!
 
moskus said:
And don't blame Sonar, it's one of the best audio programs available. ;)
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No, I won´t blame Sonar, it's the one I want to believe in!
Despites SW1000XG works damn fine with Sonar!
 
It could help to change ACPI to Standard PC, but if you're using WinXP, my experience is that it's best to leave the IRQs to Windows.



And.... you don't need to press enter every time you reach the end of the line in the "writing"-panel. ;)
 
I actually had that same problem once.... but I couldn't remember what I did to fix it.

Do you have a full, all out, studio? Maybe you got your input cables crossing over some P.A. system cables. Don't ask why, just little stupid things like that make a difference.

Change your latency, and buffers maybe? Ive got my set at 2 buffers and 20 milliseconds.

Defrag your drive, and don't record with directX effects running at the same time.
 
Digging up an old post, but I'll post a reply for posterity.

I had similar problems of crackles with my MIA and I was getting kind of worried that I made a small mistake. Then I re-read the manual and took seriously their suggestion to turn off the Windows sounds. I haven't had the problem since turning them off.

I hope this helps someone, someday.
 
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