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Badumboom1
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I just wanted to get some ideas on what effects(Reverb, Echo, etc) people use for recording vocals in sonar 2.0. What settings? I'd appreciate any comments.
Thanks,
Thanks,
erichenryus
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I usually put a compressor and reverb on the main bus and route all vocals through them. The presets work fine for me. I eq the main vocal pretty much flat but backups i roll off the bass and boost the high end to give them that airy feel.
Middleman
Professional Amateur
erichenryus,
I have also recently heard just the opposite technique on backing vocals. Listen to No Doubts latest cut, (darn I can't find the name but the video preview is our there somewhere)....
Anyway, the backing vocals are actuall real smooth and bass heavy which makes the main vocal, which is more crisp, stand out. I had not heard this technique before so thought you might be interested.
I have also recently heard just the opposite technique on backing vocals. Listen to No Doubts latest cut, (darn I can't find the name but the video preview is our there somewhere)....
Anyway, the backing vocals are actuall real smooth and bass heavy which makes the main vocal, which is more crisp, stand out. I had not heard this technique before so thought you might be interested.
ChuckU
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I like to avoid reverb on lead vocal for 2 reasons:
1. It's probably the biggest CPU hog out there effects-wise.
2. If you don't know what you're doing (guilty) you'll muddy up the part.
I'm getting excellent results out of using delay. I've been using the FxDelay in Sonar. Try about 50ms to fatten it up and back off the volume on the subsequent delays (not too far) and you'll get a nice focused track with plenty of presence.
The most recent track I did, the vocal volume levels are all over the place, but instead of compression, I created a volume envelope (again conserving cpu - and avoiding unpleasant side effects of misusing the plug-in). There are several ways to do this:
Fader automation, create envelope, or add node.
For backgrounds I throw a slight chorus on and automate volume as needed.
1. It's probably the biggest CPU hog out there effects-wise.
2. If you don't know what you're doing (guilty) you'll muddy up the part.
I'm getting excellent results out of using delay. I've been using the FxDelay in Sonar. Try about 50ms to fatten it up and back off the volume on the subsequent delays (not too far) and you'll get a nice focused track with plenty of presence.
The most recent track I did, the vocal volume levels are all over the place, but instead of compression, I created a volume envelope (again conserving cpu - and avoiding unpleasant side effects of misusing the plug-in). There are several ways to do this:
Fader automation, create envelope, or add node.
For backgrounds I throw a slight chorus on and automate volume as needed.
Teacher
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for rap vocals or any voice that doesn't really sing...
I use a compressor(to even out the levels and make'em more fat)
Eq(to low cut the vocals and add some high end to make'em crisper)
De-esser(obvious reasons)
and tube warmer (to make the sound more fat)
if i was doing someone singing i'd prolly add the reverb before the warmer
I use a compressor(to even out the levels and make'em more fat)
Eq(to low cut the vocals and add some high end to make'em crisper)
De-esser(obvious reasons)
and tube warmer (to make the sound more fat)
if i was doing someone singing i'd prolly add the reverb before the warmer
erichenryus
New member
thanks for the tip middleman. i'll try it out.
teacher, where do i get a "tube warmer"? is there one shipped with sonar?
teacher, where do i get a "tube warmer"? is there one shipped with sonar?
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Shana
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Talking about lead vocal fx-I used the fxreverb and fx medium compression on the main vocal of this track (in sonar). If you can listen and tell me if its ok or what you would recommend instead? I think i used a drop of delay as well. And the punch ins are soo obvious. Does anyone use the noise remover and if so to what do i set it. Its preset to 48.
Also,how should i be applying the effects? If i apply them and then decide to punch in i have to re-apply the effets to the new clip. What does it mean to create a submix for the fx?
Thank you
www.javamusic.com/chanale
Song number 9-Akiva's song.
Shana
Also,how should i be applying the effects? If i apply them and then decide to punch in i have to re-apply the effets to the new clip. What does it mean to create a submix for the fx?
Thank you
www.javamusic.com/chanale
Song number 9-Akiva's song.
Shana
James Argo
Fancy Rock N' Roll
If your proc is strong enough, try to put Compressor (usualy I use C1 from Waves) use classic Compressor preset in each track insert. For reverb, use Anwida, in the main output to make sure "all singer" sing in the same room. It's a general sugestion off course, depends on what mix do you plan...
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SBax
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Shana, I only listened to the Lo-Fi because the download needed a log-in. People don't like that and I skipped it too so I can't comment on the subtleties of the reverb and compression. Also, the Lo-Fi quality is so bad I couldn't tell where the punch-ins were. Be sure to add pre-delay on the reverb settings.
There are lots of ways to do the effects. You can record dry, clone the track and add the effects to the clone and archive the original dry track. Save the setting of the effect setting as a preset. Use the dry track as the master vocal track and don't add effects until you're happy with the vocal take.
You don't have to permanently apply the effects. Right mouse click on the Fx box in track view for the pop-up menu. The green light in the box means the effect is on. Click on the green light to bypass the effect.
Nice performance and melody. It is buzzing around in my head as I write this.
There are lots of ways to do the effects. You can record dry, clone the track and add the effects to the clone and archive the original dry track. Save the setting of the effect setting as a preset. Use the dry track as the master vocal track and don't add effects until you're happy with the vocal take.
You don't have to permanently apply the effects. Right mouse click on the Fx box in track view for the pop-up menu. The green light in the box means the effect is on. Click on the green light to bypass the effect.
Nice performance and melody. It is buzzing around in my head as I write this.