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When you get an adat input card for your computer, and you transfer 8 tracks at once, are you tranfering as wavs, or do you have to actually record the digital inputs? this is significant because if you have to record the digital input, then your next 8 tracks will be out of sync with the first 8 tracks unless you sync with a midi cable. n that case, I could just get a 24/96 4 input card like the Delta 44 and use sync to transfer to a recording program.

I was under the impression that you could simply transfer individual wavs to the computer, with the beginning and ending exactly as on the VF, the same as writing wav files to the internal cd on the VF. If I have to use the midi cable to sync the VF with the computer in order to keep the tracks synced, then the adat card won't help in that at all. It will only allow me to transfer more at once, and to keep everything digital, but I was hoping I could simply send 8 wavs to the computer exactly as they are on the VF, with ending and starting points in tack, and then do 8 more the same way, then load them all in Cooledit and they would all be automatically synced.

Am I right about this? If so, then I probably won't get the adat card. If I have to sync the two machines with MTC, then I can just use any quality card with a few inputs. It was having to sync two machines with MTC that I was trying to avoid. That is a hassle to me. Hell, I am better off just transferring with an erasable CDRW. I did five tracks yesterday like that, and they were all perfectly in sync, and I could have done 16 tracks like that without syncing the two machines with a midi cable.

Jeff
 
For all the faults with the MR-8, it's priceless to not have to play games to move tracks to and from a PC... :-)
 
If you're only transferring 8 tracks only and don't plan on transferring anymore, then you don't need MIDI sync. The ADAT just makes it easy to transfer 8 tracks in one pass in the digital realm. You could make 4 passes with a spdif or analog stereo connection just as easily with MIDI sync... just more time involved.

I used to use a 4 in/out card and a sblive midi connection to make my transfers. worked just fine.

Also, I transfer tracks to CEP all the time without MIDI sync and they stay in time as long as I don't make additional transfers. CEP 2.0 also has an auto drift correction function that is pretty handy.
 
JR#97 said:
If you're only transferring 8 tracks only and don't plan on transferring anymore, then you don't need MIDI sync. The ADAT just makes it easy to transfer 8 tracks in one pass in the digital realm. You could make 4 passes with a spdif or analog stereo connection just as easily with MIDI sync... just more time involved.
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Well, that makes things more clear then. Most times, I will have more than 8 tracks. I think I would be better off sticking with a CDRW disk, but I hate to do all that extra burning with my two CDRW units. I will have to keep erasing and burning, hundreds of times over a year. The burner in my computer is already old, so I hate to do that. Now, I am thinking the scsi route may be the best options. Does the VF-160use a Jazz drive? what about an external scsi hard drive? If I could use something like that, I would have the best of both worlds. I could transfer 16 tracks digitally as wav files, and all would be perfectly in sync, yet I wouldn't be putting my burners through all that burning and erasing either, and the scsi would be faster than the burners too. I want to only use my burner in the VF for making music CD's for myself and possible customers, or for transfering wav files onto the VF like samples and stuff. Sounds like having a jazz drive or something would be the way to go. I could erase that thousands of times and transfer data back and forth with no sync problems. And as for having adat into the computer, well, I still would have adat into the VF-160, and I could put adat there first, then use the scsi drive to put it over on the computer. So with an extra step, I still can get adat tracks to my computer and stay completely digital.

Now, I need to know what kind of scsi devices the 160 can use. I hope it can use at least a 1 gig jazz drive. That would be great. I could get a card and cable for the computer, and just plug the scsi device into one or the other, is this right? Wow, I need knowledge!!

Jeff
 
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