SM57 vs. SM 58

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im need a vocal mic under $200 for hip hop/ r&b vocals only. nothing else. im getting so many reviews sayen SM57 is betta than the SM58 or the other way around. im choosing the dynamic because im recording in either my closet or bathroom. but ocassionally someone in my houses uses the washer machine which makes alot of noises. and i hear the condensors pick up everything so im goin with dynamic. i need to choose betweens those shure mics. can someone help me?
 
Young Chris 101 said:
can someone help me?
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Yea, take some English classes.

And get whichever one you want to get. They're basically the same mic.
 
Go with the SM58. When you unscrew the windscreen at the top, it is identical to the SM57. That way you can choose between the two without paying twice.

Cy
 
Gosh, I hate to say this because I don't want to confuse Chris by recommending the SM57 after you just recommended the SM58... but I like the SM57 more than the SM58 and it will pick up less off axis noise than the SM58 and will be more useful down the road for recording than the SM58 IMO.
 
if you could spend up to 200$ look into some condensers, they will outdo sm57's and sm58's for vocals
 
tubesrawsom said:
if you could spend up to 200$ look into some condensers, they will outdo sm57's and sm58's for vocals
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Don't be a muppet, he's already explained why he won't be doing that.

Chris - for dynamics in that price range I, and many others, increasingly prefer the Sennheiser E845 (or E835 if it's all you can afford). It has a much more detailed top end which helps avoid the dull sound so often heard from an SM57/58. If I were to have one cheapish dynamic it would be that.

More expensive dynamics include the EV RE-20 and the Shure SM-7. The SM-7 in particular seems to be a 'sleeper' mic for many people (i.e. a 'safe' choice they can always go to).
 
They are a little different........

http://shure.com/microphones/models/sm57.asp

SM-58
Frequency response: 50 to 15,000 Hz

SM-57
Frequency response: 40 to 15,000 Hz

SM-57 Frequency response is lower.....better punch for drums...Kick, etc.
With the windscreen off of the 58 you may get the same results for vocals, I'm not sure.
 
o im sorry i cant read and i have add so wtvr
sm-57 will be better in the longrun
good luck
 
tubesrawsom said:
sm-57 will be better in the longrun
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Why? The Sennheisers are extremely well-built mics which sound excellent and provide good value for money. Unless I get some very high-end preamp I'll never add a 57 to my cabinet, there seems no point when better budget mics can be had.
 
thanx for all yall feedback. but i can get a condensor mic its just i would rather have the dynamic. but if i was to get one which one would yall recommend for under $200. thanx again.
 
Well, if you're a rapper, and you get an SM57, but then you wont have a ball to cup in your hand and subsiquently screw up the pattern of the mic, like on the 58.

So, you could get a 58, cup the ball, look really cool, but sound like hammered wolf shit, or you could get a 57, sound pretty good, but look like a pansy.

Its your decision.
 
noisedude said:
Why? The Sennheisers are extremely well-built mics which sound excellent and provide good value for money. Unless I get some very high-end preamp I'll never add a 57 to my cabinet, there seems no point when better budget mics can be had.
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Feedbacky horrible lumps off shite.

There's a reason the 58 is still around.
 
Yeah, it's because people are scared to try anything different. Why exactly do you commend these Sennheisers thus? I mean, seriously, what's not to like?

Have a read and see people's experiences of these, they're almost without exception glowing references. Have you heard the one about the guy taking 835s for his backups and the engineer asking for one for the lead because all of a sudden he can hear vocals cutting through? Have you witnessed the female singer who for the first time ever doesn't sound like she's singing through a sock in every venue she plays?
 
noisedude said:
Yeah, it's because people are scared to try anything different. Why exactly do you commend these Sennheisers thus? I mean, seriously, what's not to like?
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The nasty freq. response peaks in the high end for one thing.
 
hmmm. I've got five 845s and an 835 and neither in recording or live situations have we come across any nasty high peaks. It's certainly true that you get the detail and clarity up there that makes SM58s so mediocre for mediocre venues. That said, I sang with a friend in a beautiful concert venue and his 58 still sounded dull compared to my 845 (my voice is considerably lower than his!).
 
One man's 'clarity' is another mans 'harsh' I guess. I would agree that the 58 is not the best live vocal mic in the world, but I think the evolution ranges only value is to cut through when using sound systems with substandard horns. The 58 needs very little subtractive eq to sit nicely in a mix or get good gain-before-feedback results with stage monitors. The evolution series (esp. the e455 and e445 which I have) are just hyped to my ears.
 
For folks who "eat" the mic, like a lot of rappers do, I don't think there are a lot of better mics than the 58. At least not in their price range. The senn's sound really nice in a quieter surrounding. If I'm using a mic right up against my mouth, give me a 58 over a 57 anyday. YMMV

Blessings, Terry
 
I know what you mean about use on cheap PAs, but I've had great use of them in a quieter and more quality PA environment too. I've not had any feedback trouble with them, and IMO the 835 in particular sounds great on snare for recording purposes.
 
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