Slowing down for a more thoughtful track

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Nice playing Bubba....It's pretty quiet. Pretty sounding though....I hear nothing off...nice sounding to me. Very cool man.... :D :cool:
 
Thanks Dogman. Quiet meaning, raise the volume until it clips or just meaning it doesn't involve my usual ruckus? :)

I appreciate the listen. :)
 
bigbubba said:
All,

I've stepped away from the drums and the bass and the rest in this take to just use the guitar. This is (as usual) an old hymn (a translation of Psalm 62) by someone.

The melody is not mine. I just play the song and provide the (often times, off time) intervals.

I'd like to hear a review. :)

Thanks.

KNUR - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=419303&songID=4062640
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Hey bigbubba,

Very mellow soundscape you have going on here!

The tone is well rounded and smooth, a very relaxed and soothing piece.
However at the 2:20 mark the rundown seems out of context to me in the fact the timing changes to dramatically, I would like to see the timing kept at the same signature, but hey that is the only piece of constructive criticism I can offer on this piece!..I enjoyed my listen!! :)

Nice work bubba!!

Thanx for sharing with us!!

Gorty :) :)
 
Good Job Big Bubba - This is a long piece that sure sounds like it's all one take (of each track). I am impressed with the playing, the intricacies and length of the piece. Very smooth and relaxing.....

Mix-wise, I would maybe try two different mics on the two different guitar parts, to give them more distinct tones. Depending on the results, you may or may not want to lower the backup guitar volume. That was the only thing that came to mind while listening - the parts were great but very similar in tone...

Yes it was a bit low in volume - not sure how much headroom you have but maybe bring it up a couple db's.

Good one !

:) :D :) :D
 
Gorty said:
Hey bigbubba,

Very mellow soundscape you have going on here!

The tone is well rounded and smooth, a very relaxed and soothing piece.
However at the 2:20 mark the rundown seems out of context to me in the fact the timing changes to dramatically, I would like to see the timing kept at the same signature, but hey that is the only piece of constructive criticism I can offer on this piece!..I enjoyed my listen!! :)

Nice work bubba!!

Thanx for sharing with us!!

Gorty :) :)
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Gorty - Thanks for listening man. and thanks for the kind words. When I play it out loud, I can hear harsh hits and harsh string tones and harsh chords and what nots and that bothers me 'coz I know it could be better. I'm not trying to be Tim. Lawler here but at least a track that I can say I'd like to play and think it was really the best I could at the time. :)

About the rundown, is it just the specific take at 2:20 or is it all such takes. Basically the song is such that it speeds up during that part and depending on the church folk, some go more faster and some go less faster. So I automated the speed increase manually for my click track (drums) and then played to that. It was the smoothest and closest to real life I could get it. :)

Anyhoo, if I play this again, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks again for listening. :)
 
ido1957 said:
Good Job Big Bubba - This is a long piece that sure sounds like it's all one take (of each track). I am impressed with the playing, the intricacies and length of the piece. Very smooth and relaxing.....

Mix-wise, I would maybe try two different mics on the two different guitar parts, to give them more distinct tones. Depending on the results, you may or may not want to lower the backup guitar volume. That was the only thing that came to mind while listening - the parts were great but very similar in tone...

Yes it was a bit low in volume - not sure how much headroom you have but maybe bring it up a couple db's.

Good one !

:) :D :) :D
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Ido - thanks for listening and thanks for your kind words. :) And no that was not one take. Each verse was it own track before the final mix down into one track for the main melody. And each verse was further done using multiple tracks. Sometimes just to smooth out any harsh note hits and so on. But playing a piece that slow takes a lot of focus and I go ADD after about the first 10 seconds of the track. :)

Mix-wise? Mics? No no no no, this is just my Fender plugged into the amp which is then straight into the computer. And the tone is unprocessed so each track sounds the same. Althought I did just re-string the guitar (DR strings, 'coz the guy said they're the best. I don't agree but anyhoo). So while stretching the strings I realized that while these strings are basically crap for playing dist. rhythm they do play nice clean rhythm and thus this piece was played. :)

These might not even be EQ'd. Maybe I'll play butcher with the EQ on one of the tracks. :)

The sound headroom is plenty even without compressing. So I'll raise her till she crops. :)

Thanks for listening. :)
 
Hey Bubba, what up?
Yeah nice tone here and playing. Sorry Gorty, but I gotta say I actually like those little runs in there. Cool change of pace... I'd definitely mess with the volume a bit. It's a good mood piece overall. Feels like I'm entering some mysterious city on a haunting night. Maybe some building synths later in the song would sound cool and add to the mood too.
Nice song you have here ;)
 
bigbubba said:
Gorty
About the rundown, is it just the specific take at 2:20 or is it all such takes. Basically the song is such that it speeds up during that part and depending on the church folk, some go more faster and some go less faster. So I automated the speed increase manually for my click track (drums) and then played to that. It was the smoothest and closest to real life I could get it. :)

Anyhoo, if I play this again, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks again for listening. :)
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I think the first rundown seems to be more out of context than the second one, maybe I was more prepared for the second one, but as SnakeDog says he likes that so it is only my personal opinion!! :)

It is a nice piece bigbubba!!! :)
 
Gorty said:
Ithink the first rundown seems to be more out of context than the second one, but as SnakeDog says he likes that so it is only my personal opinion!! :)

It is a nice piece bigbubba!!! :)
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Haha, now he doesn't know what to do since he has 1 vote for and against the rundown :D :)
 
SnakeDog5050 said:
Haha, now he doesn't know what to do since he has 1 vote for and against the rundown :D :)
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It's fine how it is!!....unless you want to change your opinion SnakeDude!!!! :eek: :D
 
Gorty said:
It's fine how it is!!....unless you want to change your opinion SnakeDude!!!! :eek: :D
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Maybe your "opinion" is wrong Gorty, maybe you want to change yours :eek: All the r00s are doing it! Peer pressure! :p :p :)
 
SnakeDog5050 said:
Hey Bubba, what up?
Yeah nice tone here and playing. Sorry Gorty, but I gotta say I actually like those little runs in there. Cool change of pace... I'd definitely mess with the volume a bit. It's a good mood piece overall. Feels like I'm entering some mysterious city on a haunting night. Maybe some building synths later in the song would sound cool and add to the mood too.
Nice song you have here ;)
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S-Dawg! What's up, man? Thanks for listening. I appreciate your comments. I'm going to definitely the up the main melody a little and then the overall till it clips.

Haunting night? It's Psalm 62. It should feel more calm. :) Or really the song that was made out Psalm 62 by someone. Anyhoo.... :)

Ok so raising the melody by 2db and then the main volume. :)

Thanks for listening man! :)
 
SnakeDog5050 and Gorty,

About the run downs. In the song when singing it, the increased tempo sounds really nice. When I heard my playing, a couple of times I could have thought that I didn't like exactly how it was done. So I'm thinking that I'm not doing it smoothly enough, maybe.

I definitely like it. But I think its maybe sounding like a less smooth transition to you Gorty. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason 'coz I tend to get used to my mistakes after listening to them for a while. :)

And trust me, I appreciate all opinions. I didn't think that on a two-track pieces I'd get many ideas. And I would rather always get ideas 'coz it has been helping me improve my mixing skills. And my playing also in many cases. :)

Thanks all. :)

OK, I've updated the song. I've raised the main melody by 2db and raised the overall volume a lot. Only thing is whenever I play the Bmin chord, you can hear the stupid root note string ringing badly 'coz I didn't depress it nicely. Playing dist. it's never an issue but playing clean it becomes so clear.
 
Wow very nice! I agree with the previous comments on this thread. Nice soothing piece, great tone, great arrangement, nice (but maybe still a little rough) time changes. Or maybe my internal metronome needs recalibrating ;)

Great piece post some more for us! :cool:
 
Hi doods!! I listened a few times. I like the runs and change of time also....because I was getting a bit bored by the time the change came. Not because of anything Bubba did. It is just the mood and move of the piece.
This song rings of a Hebrew foundation. It sure feels of it. I do love Israelite music. I must agree with r00, that the first time change is not a smooth transition. The second change I absolutely love. It is very defined and played with more confidence. I would love to hear it with a mandolin!! :)

Snake and r00....you both know where your next visit is.....now. :D :D :D

I love the song, just needs a bit more refining, as the refining of the fire that inspired it. :) :) :) :) :)

That ought to really get a stir of the pot. :eek: :D
 
Everything sounds very clean to me. Song is pretty fantastic I really enjoyed this man. Guitar tone doesn't hurt even at high volume which in my eyes is a very nice thing and something I can't pull off. Nothings overly bright or warm, sounds great. Overall I listened 3 or 4 times.. realy dug it man.

Take care
gary
 
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