Slicy, fill in drummer

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Heard a lot of good things about these 2 plugins

has anyone got experience with these ones

do they come with a heap of Midi drum patterns/ fills
or will they require manual programming like in Fruityloops?
coz in that case I might be better off by doing it by hand in sonar
 
I've been looking at these too, seams they come with a lot of patterns, and you can create your own. Just read a little review on them and it gets a thumbs up!

Here's a link:

http://www.musiclab.com/products/sdr_info.htm

Sounds like the patterns are all individual; seperate kicks, toms, snares, and then you put then togather to create your own loops..or you can just press a button and it thoughs some random loops togather for you.
 
I would say that the best thing to do is to take your time, and learn how to play drums on the keyboard. :)
 
Yeah I do that, but sometimes new drum patterns will come up that inspire me as a songwriter;)
 
Playing drums on keyboard ??

Nah not with my latency and my keyboard talent :)

i'd rather program them for now ...

but If these things are a must have I' try out their demo's ...
 
_ronin75_ said:
but If these things are a must have I' try out their demo's ...
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I would say it's not a must-have, but others may disagree... ;)
 
so what do you use to get your drumtracks in midi moskus?
 
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so what do you use to get your drumtracks in midi moskus?
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Most of us will record MIDI using our regular "Black and white" keyboard (two fingers drummer :D ) . After all is done, make propher editing in Piano Roll View, manually sequence them (eg. Velocity, groove, etc). Then we'll split it to tracks by notes (Kick, snare, etc) and instrument/bank/patch re-assiging (make sound patch adjustment as necesarry). After all, convert them to audio for mixing.

;)
Jaymz
 
James Argo said:
Most of us will record MIDI using our regular "Black and white" keyboard (two fingers drummer)
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Except me, of course Jaymz! I have to do it the hard way, spending hours in PRV getting my flams and paradiddles just perfect. :)

There's nothing particularly wrong with being a two-finger drummer, but if you are using PRV to compose drum tracks, just remember that a drummer only has two hands and two feet (well - I think that applies to most drummers...) The secret is not to have too much going on at once.

One little tip: whenever I have a crash-cymbal hit, I also underpin it with a bass-pedal hit. Gives it lots of body. :)

Oh yes, one more thing: Shuffle rules! :D

--
BluesMeister
 
James Argo said:
Then we'll split it to tracks by notes (Kick, snare, etc)
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so you program your drums in one track and layer the afterwards for ease of reassigning other drum maps ?
smart ....
and at that time I can run some .cal files on these tracks seperately to humanize my crappy drums :)
or do you actually edit evry single note to your liking ?

btw what is PRV?
 
James Argo said:
Then we'll split it to tracks by notes (Kick, snare, etc) and instrument/bank/patch re-assiging
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Naaaw, that's a lot of work... Just get a kit that works. For example "Drumkit from Hell"! :)
 
Agreed ...

but one you've done that you can re-use those custom created drummaps right ??

read an article on cakewalk.net and the guy who wrote the demo song from guitar tracks pro used a similar way of working splitting and .cal files ...think james had a link to that tutorial

I tried to use the demo of fill in and slicy yesterday but those drums still sounded like crap (prob becouse of the soundfont I used and the crappy mappings)
is there like a standard way of defining your drummaps so that a snare is still a snare and a hihat does not become a kick drum
(like what happened to me yesterday)
when using slicy

btw liked slicy's patterns but fill in only had one fill in the demo version for some reason ... verry disappointing :(
 
_ronin75_ said:
is there like a standard way of defining your drummaps so that a snare is still a snare and a hihat does not become a kick drum
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Well, there's the General MIDI standard for drum-maps and I think Slicy Drummer uses that. Just find a Soundfont that's layed out like General Midi. You'll find the standard on the net...
 
thnx for the info ...

i dont remember which one I ued but I think it was a free one from the hammersound website ...
sounds good but kinda 80's
can I edit this soundfont so that it is compatible with the standard layout ?
 
_ronin75_ said:
can I edit this soundfont so that it is compatible with the standard layout ?
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Yes, you need Vienna (found at www.soundblaster.com) or another SF-editor. It's not an easy task, but it's possible.

And "one of the free ones at hammersound" isn't a very clear description... ;)
 
I think it was JD's drumkit ....

but I cant tell for sure untill I check this evening ....

i could post an mp3 but im not going to do that untill I am satisfied with the results
(dont want to make a fool out of myself YET :) )
 
Did you download the GoldDrums kit I posted to you in one of your earlier threads?
 
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