slidey
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I'm curious...............I've just double headed 1/2 of my toms & the other 1/2 single headed
what do you think
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Slidey
what do you think
L8r
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Rico 52
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I just put a single coated back on my 10" tom and the others are double.
I will see if it records better that way. I like the ringing tone on the little guy.
I have the bottoms of the 12 and 14 muted somewhat with moon gel.
I dont mic the toms but I do boost the lows and highs of the OH channel strip. I use stereo OH mics. The high tom gets a little lost compared to the others. Perhaps this will help.
Rico
I will see if it records better that way. I like the ringing tone on the little guy.
I have the bottoms of the 12 and 14 muted somewhat with moon gel.
I dont mic the toms but I do boost the lows and highs of the OH channel strip. I use stereo OH mics. The high tom gets a little lost compared to the others. Perhaps this will help.
Rico
slidey
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more projection
I find it considerably louder & thwackier (dat's a good word) with single heads, I use evans hydraulic glass for single headed toms & get the mic into the shell
unless you don't mic the toms
I find it considerably louder & thwackier (dat's a good word) with single heads, I use evans hydraulic glass for single headed toms & get the mic into the shell
unless you don't mic the toms
PhilGood
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If you're asking which is preferred, I suggest looking through as many concert and studio pictures as you can and add up how many times you see double headed vs. single. That should tell you pretty quick which is used more often.
If you're trying to go for a completely different sound from the norm, more like a 70's sound, go with single heads.
Personally I will never play single heads again except for really small toms. I think I might get a 6" concert tom and mount it to the side of my snare. Then I could crank it as high as it would go and use it for snare accents.
If you're trying to go for a completely different sound from the norm, more like a 70's sound, go with single heads.
Personally I will never play single heads again except for really small toms. I think I might get a 6" concert tom and mount it to the side of my snare. Then I could crank it as high as it would go and use it for snare accents.
Tim Brown
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PhilGood said:
Phil,
You're ready for Rototoms now!
You could use a roto for what your talking about, and just mount it to your snare stand with a long rotating clamp.
I prefer double headed drums, however - I love rototoms...I don't just mean the 6"-8"-10" set that everyone used to use. I like the big rototoms, you can get this.... it's hard to explain, there's this ringing tympani-ish type of sound that you can achieve out of them that I love. Plus the fact that you can have them a lot lower, than regular toms since there's no shell to the roto toms.
I used to have a kit with 8 single-headed toms, and in some ways, I do miss them. It's definitely easier to tune, and cheaper to put heads on the kit.
But, in the end, I prefer double headed toms, for the same reason I likethe Rototoms - I can place more tension on the bottom head, and make the drum sound somewhat like a tympani.
Tim
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ballroot
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Get both you tramp
PhilGood
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ballroot said:
ballroot, I'm really sorry about the size of your penis. I really am. Some things just can't be helped.
Maybe you can go to one of those special clinics, ya know?
OH, WAIT!!! I GET IT NOW!!....ballroot!!!
That's where it used to be ATTACHED!!!
Very clever!!
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PhilGood
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Tim Brown said:Phil,
You're ready for Rototoms now!
You could use a roto for what your talking about, and just mount it to your snare stand with a long rotating clamp.
I prefer double headed drums, however - I love rototoms...I don't just mean the 6"-8"-10" set that everyone used to use. I like the big rototoms, you can get this.... it's hard to explain, there's this ringing tympani-ish type of sound that you can achieve out of them that I love. Plus the fact that you can have them a lot lower, than regular toms since there's no shell to the roto toms.
I used to have a kit with 8 single-headed toms, and in some ways, I do miss them. It's definitely easier to tune, and cheaper to put heads on the kit.
But, in the end, I prefer double headed toms, for the same reason I likethe Rototoms - I can place more tension on the bottom head, and make the drum sound somewhat like a tympani.
Tim
Ok Tim. I'm hitting eBay right now! I'm just getting the 6" though.
Baby steps. Don't want anyone to think I'm in Vandenburg.
Tim Brown
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PhilGood said:
"Wait, wait, wait, `til the $hit hits the fan!"
If you watch them long enough, you might be able to pick on up for really cheap.
Man, I loved Jos Zoomer - The band I was in at the time learned that entire first Vandenberg LP...and of course, as soon as I saw that kit - I set the rototoms up. I worked an extra job the entire summer just to buy those suckers....but God did I hate that Track they mounted on.
Tim
PhilGood
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"This burning heart of mine - won't let me be!"...
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Minion
Blow Me !!!
Actually this kit I have now (CB700) is the First Kit I ever owned in the Last 20 years since I started playing drums that has Double Headed Toms.....
I used to never have problems with Tuneing my Drums so I allways thought I knew how to Do it pretty well, That was Till I got this Kit and Now I feel like the Worst Drum tuner ever...No matter what I do I can not get the Toms to sound in Tune and when I do finally get a Sound Like Like there is allways Too much of a Ringing sound after Hitting the Tom that seems to carry on for 2 or 3 seconds...I finally got a Professinal to come over to Tune my Drums and he was able to tune them fairly good but he couldn"t get rid of the Ringing sound so he Put these small Plastic rings over the top skin which totally got rid of the Ringing sound and made it so I can actually hear the Tone of the Drums instead of the Ringing after effect, I now use the Plastic Rings on all of my Toms and they sound great, much better than the single Sided Toms I used to play with.....
So when Properly Tuned and set up Correctly i much prefer the double skined toms but the Single skin toms were much easier to tune and to get a Good sound out of.....
Cheers
I used to never have problems with Tuneing my Drums so I allways thought I knew how to Do it pretty well, That was Till I got this Kit and Now I feel like the Worst Drum tuner ever...No matter what I do I can not get the Toms to sound in Tune and when I do finally get a Sound Like Like there is allways Too much of a Ringing sound after Hitting the Tom that seems to carry on for 2 or 3 seconds...I finally got a Professinal to come over to Tune my Drums and he was able to tune them fairly good but he couldn"t get rid of the Ringing sound so he Put these small Plastic rings over the top skin which totally got rid of the Ringing sound and made it so I can actually hear the Tone of the Drums instead of the Ringing after effect, I now use the Plastic Rings on all of my Toms and they sound great, much better than the single Sided Toms I used to play with.....
So when Properly Tuned and set up Correctly i much prefer the double skined toms but the Single skin toms were much easier to tune and to get a Good sound out of.....
Cheers
slidey
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PhilGood said:
I havn't got the rest of my life to spare.........................it's easier to post a poll thread
I use both I prefer recording rockier stuff with single heids & jazzy/funky stuff with doubles or singles or both
Tim Brown
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Minion said:
It could be the head combination that's causing the excessive ringing, and it very well may be the bearing edges on the drums.
I had a set of CB700's when they were attempting to make professional drums. The kit was called the "Grand Prix" and came in an Emerald Green color - it was a beautiful kit, and it actually sounded great. The problem was the line didn't last very long, and you couldn't get extra's (i.e., I wanted an extra Floor tom and a second kick drum) so I wound up selling them.
One of my friends bought a CB700 several years later as a home practice kit, and the rang like crazy - his way of dealing with it was to put coated ambassadors on the bottoms, and he put deadringers on the bottom heads - that eliminated the extra ring, and they sounded great after that....since the dead ringers weren't on the top heads - the drum still had an "open" sound.
Tim
slidey
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moongel dampening pads are really effective as well 
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superprohero
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WOW!! CB700 was my 1st new, never been played before,get yerself a job to make payments to the music store, drumset I ever had. 5 Peice Brandywine. They were cool then(1983 or so). The only problem was I couldn't afford a 2nd set of them to have a matching double bass kit and I didn't believe in a double kick pedal, so I mixed them together with my ancient old blue sparkle STEWARTS! LOL. Good ole days!
Check this pic out, my Ludwig home practice kit in 1984.
The CB700's were kept where we practiced. But here I had cut the bottom heads out to leave about an inch along the edge. I think I did that because the top heads were dented badly and the bottoms were good so I cut tthe top heads, put them on bottom and swapped the bottoms to the top. Stupid stuff kids do! I kind of liked the Dave Holland sound back then. LOL I play doubled skinned Mapex now.
Check this pic out, my Ludwig home practice kit in 1984.
The CB700's were kept where we practiced. But here I had cut the bottom heads out to leave about an inch along the edge. I think I did that because the top heads were dented badly and the bottoms were good so I cut tthe top heads, put them on bottom and swapped the bottoms to the top. Stupid stuff kids do! I kind of liked the Dave Holland sound back then. LOL I play doubled skinned Mapex now.
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slidey
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well sexy kit
I would've been scared of that geeser's axe that's behind you LOL
I would've been scared of that geeser's axe that's behind you LOL
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zebedy
The Kid From The Kibble
Wasssup!...
Slidy!..
Had a shot on ure kit the other day
Was weary of the single headed Bass drum....
Never seen that before ...
But dude... the kit was sumting else... and a priviedgle to play!
Taste Of Almonds
Slidy!..
Had a shot on ure kit the other day
Was weary of the single headed Bass drum....
Never seen that before ...
But dude... the kit was sumting else... and a priviedgle to play!
Taste Of Almonds
slidey
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zebedy said:
People are always wary of what they havn't seen or tried ( I've found anyway)
thanks anyway
for single headed tom sounds Wilding & Bonus--Pleasure Signals is wicked Phil Collins played most of it
Yowzza
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zebedy
The Kid From The Kibble
Yowzzza... Wooop! lol
Yeah, as i said this mornin.. thinking about going for the A-kariys lol
cant spell and fully aware of it.. ! ^_^
Erm, Dave said that there like the creem of the crop.. and I dont pay tax at work cause i'm a full time student... So i'm still in question about going for it or not...
Dunno if to get skins or a new pedal first...
I saw the DW 5000 on ebay for like 145... i was like ooooR
lol
Yeah, as i said this mornin.. thinking about going for the A-kariys lol
cant spell and fully aware of it.. ! ^_^
Erm, Dave said that there like the creem of the crop.. and I dont pay tax at work cause i'm a full time student... So i'm still in question about going for it or not...
Dunno if to get skins or a new pedal first...
I saw the DW 5000 on ebay for like 145... i was like ooooR
lol