Simple recording to my pc/mp3 cdrw.Can it be done?

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Ted,
You may just want to stick with Krystal for the moment, so as not to get even more confused with all of the different learning curves of other programs.
What you are trying to do is rather simple.
Connect your mixer, in the manner stated above, to the Line In (blue jack with the arrow pointing in).
Using input monitoring in Krystal is not very practical without having ASIO drivers, but we can work around this for your needs.

On your desktop, down by the clock, double click the little speaker icon.
This will bring up your playback controls.
Make sure the Line In isn't muted and the level is all the way up.
Now click Options at the top and select properties.
Under "Adjust volume for" select Recording.
In the window for "Show the following volume controls" ... Make sure Line In is selected.
Click OK.
Now you will be looking at the recording controls.
Place a check mark in the box to select the Line In as the recording device and set that fader level to about 75% or more. In fact you can even set it all the way up, as you will be controlling the input level via your mixer.
Now, when you play something through your mixer you should hear it on your computer speakers.
If all is good to this point, you are ready to record in Krystal.
In the Waver window on the first track (Waver 1) click the second button from the left. This will set the track to stereo.
Now click the record button to arm the track.
You should be at the point you where before .... showing levels in Krystal, but you should still be hearing output at your speakers.
Good to this point? Lets hope.
Now you can click record on the transport and do some recording.
We'll just stick with a single track at this point, though Krystal does allow you to add 15 more tracks (dubbing) that you can mix together as well as add effects. We'll worry about that at a later date.
Now you've got a recorded track and can play it back in Krystal? Great.
Now we just need to Export Mixdown.
First you will need to set your track markers. This is done just above the first track, in the timeline. Hold the Ctrl button and left click the timeline at the beginning of the track, now while holding the Ctrl button right click the timeline at the end of the track. You should now have a blue line in the timeline above the area of the track that you made your marker selections.
Now you just need to go to File > Export Mixdown.
A window will pop up asking you to name it and where to save the resulting wave file. You can also select to save the file as mono or stereo and as 16 bit, 24 bit or 32 bit float. Just leave it at stereo and 16 bit.
Now click save. You should now have that wave file saved to whatever location you chose.
Seeing as how you would like the file to be an mp3, you will need to convert it.
dBpoweramp Music Converter will do this. Also check out dBpowerAMP CD Writer (which includes the music converter) for writing your mp3's to CD.

Hope this helps.

-Ken
 
Thanks ken !

This exactly the kind of help I need on this,I'll have time tomorrow to start looking this over in detail,I hope you don't mind a few follow up questions latter in the week.
Thanks again, Ted
 
Not a problem.
My answers may come late at night as I work second shift though the week.
 
Hey Ken,
Great so far,finally I have sound and the vu meter again is responding only now to the correct 'line in' .
The mixe panel audio input one has an option of live in or waver in I have selected waver in for now by default shoud I change that to live in or leave it on waver in? .
When I click the record button on waver 1 the meter moves and I guess it's recording but I don't find anywhere to play it back.
Also I may be a bit confused about time line ,I assume that defines the length of the sample tune I lay down, but if so this function is going to confuse me ,I'll ask probably more on that one .
Thanks again, I'm miles ahead of where I started.
Ted
 
I just found a play and rewind button in the Transport window and got a little bit of recording to play back.I'll work with that a some and see if I can sort that part out it looks like that'll be possible.

Ted
 
Hi Ken,
I downloaded this from db ,is it the right one ?
'db power amp music converter- audion cd input.'
Can you walk me through on this?
Also I guess from what you say, to record to cd it needs to go from wav to mp3 then cd?

When I go to record another short tune/segment do I overwrite my previous work or go right after what was recorded and exported, and start again ?

Thanks, Ted
 
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I'll have to get back to you on some of this, working over-time this week.
The best thing I can suggest at this point is to read through as many of the help files as you can for both Krystal and dBpowerAMP.
 
Thanks Ken,

I'll wait ,I looked through the db literature ,I have no idea how any of it ties in with what I'm trying to do ,no such thing as an instruction manual these days just a lot of a little bit about this and a little bit on that.
If you don't have time period ,that's ok too,just if and when .

Ted
 
Well, lets get back to the point of why you want the files to be mp3's.
Is there any particular reason you wish for them to be mp3?
mp3 files are only playable in CD players that support the mp3 format.
A standard audio CD is created using wave files.
I'm assuming your computer has a CD burner and came with some software for creating CD's. One of the options for creating CD's should be that of creating an Audio CD in which you would select the wave files that you want to appear as tracks on the CD.

To be quite honest with you, I don't use dBpowerAMP for writing CD's. I only occasionally use the music converter in the event I need to convert a audio file to a different format. The softwares that I use are a bit more on the higher end.
Same goes for Krystal, I only downloaded it to give it a whirl. It's not my software of choice, but I'll help as best I can with it.

Let me know about your reasoning for mp3's and any type of CD creation software that you may have been supplied with for your burner.
If need be, I'll download dB's CD writer and shake it down so I can make heads or tails of what you would need to do with it.

-Ken
 
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Good point Ken,

Why do I want to go to mp3? Only because I don't yet know any better,I was under the impression from reading posts that I couldn't get to the cd recording part until it went wav-mp3 first.

Also I would like a means of sending demos over the internet ,avoiding snail mail where possible.That brings back the mp3 to mind,but I just want anything that might be considered fairly universaly accessable to given recipients.
I did transfer a file from Kristal to my Windows Media player ,and then emailed it to myself as a test (and maybe that's as good as mp3's I don't have a clue though for sure). I did this yesterday and it took way to long to send and receive, about 1/2" hour each way , I know that wont be practical ,did I do something wrong there?

I'll take your advice on transmition methods ,I'd like to stay in the free software genre till I figure out what I'm doing,and even then this is just for low grade demos for now.If you think my media player is good than I just need to figure out how to speed up transmition.

I have cdrw capability and that may be more emmediatly beneficial for me to sort out right now ,I can give those out locally and anyone can play those.
I don't think I have any software for it unless it's in the db stuff I downloaded,I don't even know what they mean by rip a this or that ,I guess they mean like burn a cd or something,but most of the verbage seems to be geared toward consumers recording other peoples music,kinda confusing to me.

Ted
 
Ken ,

For some reason I don't understand ,I was able to transfer my 30 second track to my cd writer,I don't know if it will play on most cd players but I tried a ten year old cd player and it played back ok.

SInce you're busy with work right now I'll save a batch of questions for later, maybe when you'll have more time.
For now I can mail cd's wherever I want to send them.
And solve the emailing of the recordings later re: the 30 minutes that it now seems to take.

Thanks for the really excellent help,Ted
 
Ted,

Chances are, you have successfully figured out how to create an audio CD. ;)
Another good point is that you've gained the ability to record and save that recording as a wave (.wav) file.

You can add as many wave files as you like to a CD as separate tracks. Limited, of course, by the capacity of the CD.
With the dB CD Writer program, you simply paste each wave file into the window.

Launch dB CD Writer .... Start > All Programs > dBPowerAMP ... > dBpowerAMP CD Writer.
You can resize the window, so it doesn't take up the whole screen.

Now, within Windows Explorer or My Computer, bring up the location of where you saved your recordings.
Now you can just right click on a wave file and select copy. Then right click in the CD Writer window and select paste. Once you are done pasting in all the tracks you'd like, click Burn CD.

Now as far as converting to mp3 .... Launch the Music Converter and navigate to the location of your wave files. Then select the one you want to convert. In the "Convert 1 File to" list, select mp3.
You can adjust the bit rate slider to select the encoding bit rate you'd like to use. Higher bit rates offer higher quality but also create a larger file size.
You can just experiment to see what lowest bit rate is acceptable for you.
There are some advanced options also, but I'd just stick with the constant bit rate for now.

Hope this helps.

Any more questions you have .... I'll have more time this weekend.

-Ken
 
Ken,

I didn't know the right thing to download from db to get the cd writer,so after reading your instruction a few times I realized I was trying to get the wrong software to write the cd .
I had used my Windows Media player for writing the first practice cd.
I burned a cd with db and it was easy once I tried a couple times.

My quality is way down,my cd sounds a bit cheesy due to my inexperience probably.An eq might be helpfull, and maybe a little compression.
I found the delay useless,but I shouldn't be using it for what I'm doing anyway.I just put some reverb on for color.
I'll save up a few questions during the week and if you have time latter or on next weekend ,maybe you can look them over.
Thanks, Ted
 
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