Simple drums

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Hi all,

I'd like to be able to program a full drum track for a song and export it as Wav or similar for use within Kristal. I'm also darn cheap.

So I already have Band in a Box. I managed to get that exported to Wav and it's real easy to program a song in a particular, mute everything but drums, etc. The problem I have with this is that they sound awful using the Roland Sound Canvas, and I have no other decent MIDI driver. I need to use a software driver (no good card), and don't want to pay for a better one. So for this to be workable, I'd need a free software MIDI driver I can use with BIAB that sounds good, at least for drums. Any suggestions?

Option 2, use some kind of sequencing software with WAV samples. My M-Audio Mobilepre came with Reason 2.5 for M-Audio. Seems like it could do what I want, but also seems very complicated. I'm not a drummer, nor into electronic music. I just want simple drums to play over in X tempo for Y measures in style Z. These sequencers require more expertise than I have. Does any one know of a real simple one (free?) with built in styles?

Any other suggestions for drums in a particular style that's free and easy to use?

Thanks!!

-Andrew
 
If you lack the necessary curiosity to spark you to learn a little something about programming drums, I'm sure there are plenty of midi files on the net somewhere that are just made for you.

From your post you want your music to be as much like karaoke as possible and want to invest as little of your own creativity as you can into your songs so, I assume, when someone critisizes the results you'll have the excuse that you just cut and pasted stuff anyway.

A no risk proposition!
 
Not exactly. I am a guitar player and don't have the time to time to learn about drum patterns. I'm just spread too thin to spend time on that.

I don't think I'm asking too much. I think there's a gap in what's available to people like me. What not have a relatively simple program, say as simple as BIAB, that I can say, give me 8 bars of "rock pattern 1" followed by 16 bars of "rock pattern 2" and repeat it 4 times. And it shouldn't have to sound like crappy MIDI - it should use real sampled drum sounds. Is that so outrageous?

I wouldn't quite call that karaoke nor would I say it shows a lack of investment in my own creativity (to paraphrase you) as I am playing the bass, guitar, and singing parts. I just don't have the time to put in to think about how often the high hat needs to be hit to make it sound like a good rock beat.

If you think I'm lazy, or stupid, or looking for excuses for lousy quality, fine. I don't really care. I'm a musician, not an engineer. And not a drummer. I was looking for someone who might know of a decent piece of software to do what I want. If you don't know, you don't know.

Anyone else?

-Andrew
 
You took WAY more offense to my post than I intended.

Guess I should have included a few moronic smiley faces.

Here's a --- LINK --- to a product that sounds like it would fit your description.

Since you also catagorize yourself as 'darn cheap' you may not want to lay out for this --- but if you do, I don't think you'll be sorry.
 
Sorry if I got defensive. It's hard to read tone through an email. Thanks for the link. I am probably too cheap for that one, but it's good to see that there's something out there that'll do what I want.

I actually did manage to download Hydrogen for Windows. It doesn't seem all that bad to use, but again, what's lacking are any pre-built patterns.

Perhaps I can change the nature of the question, then, because it seems that I could use Hydrogen to make patterns into a song. And the drums that come with it actually sound pretty decent.

What I need now are perhaps a website or something that just lists out some ideas for drum patterns in different styles. Again, I am so far from being able to say, "yeah here's how you build a jazz fill pattern" or "this is a good pattern for a verse of country swing music" that it's ridiculous.

I did find this book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/08...coding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance&n=283155

And it seems like a good start. Can anyone recommend some websites or online resources that might have something like the info contained in that book?

-Andrew
 
For your purposes, check out Steinberg Groove Agent. I don't have first hand experience with it, but it's basically a drum loop library, organized by era (anywhere from your grandparents time to the near future...uh... :)
 
wow, thanks for the good links. If I had $250 to spend that Groove Agent looks like just the thing.

-Andrew
 
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