Selling Beats

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Ive been making beats for about 5 years and I never really understood how to sell them. Ive done alot of production with some people that I know personally but never charged them since no real income have came in. But If anyone out there knows a way how to sell them either online or what ever please contact me. What are the steps you have to prepare for when you make a sale.
Aaron
 
There are several basic steps you'll want to consider, depending on how professional the transaction is, and how much you want to protect yourself financially.

A lot of cats simply will make the beat and sell it to the buyer for a flat one time fee, handing over rights to the buyer to use the beat however they see fit. This arrangement is useful in situations where you have no concerns over how your beat will be used, and don't think you stand to profit from what the buyer will use the beat for. Technically you are also free to resell the beat to other interested parties, if you so choose.

A second scenario is where you would lease the beat for a particular project, or for a certain time period, with the understanding that after the agreed upon time period expires, you will be free to do further business with the beat with other interested parties.

For more professional transactions, you will want to have your material copyrighted ( www.copyright.gov/ ). ($35, I believe, although if you bundle your beats together as one master package you can copyright many at once for the same price). This will give you ownership of the beat and help you in the event that you are owed money at some point based on the buyer's successful usage of your beat.

You will also want to consider joining ACAPS, BMI or SESAC which are companies that, once you register your works with them assist in the collection of royalties and other dues associated with your sold material. In establishing a publishing set up, there are other considerations as well, (DBA or 'doing business as' name and checking account, PO box for transactions, etc.) It can seem complicated at first, but once you get established it's fairly straightforward. You would do well to do some internet searches on the subjects of music publishing, and royalty collection as there is a abundance of this literature online.

These are just the basics. If you want to get up and running right away you might consider the bare bones option listed at the top of the post, to get your name out and drum up a little business, but understand that you have minimal legal protection from someone jacking your material. Of course you would keep your masters but that's basically all you've got.

You might consider setting up a website to showcase some of your material (or snippets of it) to increase your visibility and availability. When someone wants to buy one of your joints long distance you can either send it to him as a stereo two track, or broken down track by track so they can mix the levels independently. You probably won't go through all that if you are exercising the one time fee option.

peace-

LEF
 
Leffield said:
There are several basic steps you'll want to consider, depending on how professional the transaction is, and how much you want to protect yourself financially.

A lot of cats simply will make the beat and sell it to the buyer for a flat one time fee, handing over rights to the buyer to use the beat however they see fit. ..... Technically you are also free to resell the beat to other interested parties, if you so choose.

peace-

LEF
good info

correct me if i'm wrong but i don't agree with that part of your message cuz if he's selling the beat along with the rights to it, how can he technically be free to resell the beat since whomever buys the beat is most likely to go and get it copyrighted
 
theres rights to property and theres rights to product....the beat sold as a one time fee is product....the beat leased for a period of time is property.. if i use my lawn mower to cut a pattern in your lawn and you pay me for it, i can cut that same pattern in your neighbors lawn and he'll pay me for it too...now if i let you borrow my lawnmower for 600 bucks for 6 months....i cant let anyone else borrow it. however there is a loophole in there to watch out for.....make sure he didnt borrow the lawnmower and cut a pattern in a bunch of other lawns and they pay him a one time fee. sorry about the lawnmower analogy. watching a john deere commercial
 
i'm not sure i understand because i think he's referring to right of product i.e beat not the equipment used to produce the beat
you make a beat, kevlar and i hear on your website
i come up with the money for a flat fee meaning the beat is now mine you don't care if i sell millions of singles with that beat you got your one time fee upfront, so how can you go and sell that same beat to kevlar
 
L'espion Noir said:
good info

correct me if i'm wrong but i don't agree with that part of your message cuz if he's selling the beat along with the rights to it, how can he technically be free to resell the beat since whomever buys the beat is most likely to go and get it copyrighted

Good point.

If the buyer wants to copyright your material, he's just doing what you chose not to do (for whatever reason) and potentially could profit from your work.
When I was referring to one time buying I essentially meant a beat that is used for local level work where it's understood everything is running under the radar (no copyrighting...just releases for the street, etc)
He has his copy and you have yours. In the event that the buyer copyrights the beat, you (the seller) might run into issues if you try to copyright it. Of course you have the original while the buyer has a sound file, but it's a hassle nonetheless. Personally I would not try to copyright a beat that I've sold in that manner.

LEF

--I'm no lawyer, so you'd do well to check up with some official heads in the know.
 
Im trying to understand something. When someone says that they sold a beat for $500, what exactly are they saying? Does that mean the beat is off their hands and they dont maintain any ownership for future royalties etc... or does it all depend on the circumstance and the contract that accompanies the selling of the beat. I would like to start selling my beats/songs but i dont know if lets say, "$x- plus 50% of copyright, and maybe royalties (3%), is more than most people ask for. Personally i dont think that maintaing 50% of the copyright is too much to ask but that why im asking you guys. thanks
 
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