Seamless editing

[gtttrrr]

Was the last post looking for too much of a "magic bullit"?
I've tried quite a few things and can't seem to make a song soud decent unless I record each instrument in it's entireity for the whole tune.

 

[acidrock]

Are you aware of the zero crossing technique?If not look that up in the help of cakewalk.
If you want to patch tracks to gether you really have to keep all your settings and levels the same or the splice will be obvious.
Also it works a lot better with staccato(choppy)tracks or tracks that have spaces or dead spots.
You'd better be recording to a click,metronome or drum beat thats midi syncned because if your timeings off fuggetaboutit!

Still playing the track all the way through would be the preffered method at least imho.

GOOD LUCK!

 

[adam]

yes, the zero crossing is critical. Aviods the "pops"

As I become more familiar with Sonar (7 months so far) I have begun to realize that even when you are not using any midi, setting the appropriate tempo and time signatures (and key) is key. Then if you want to loop, stretch/shrink, or in anyother way adjust the clip to fit with your intentions it will be much easier. The downbeats will line up, so it will be easier to place clips and when you expand or shrink tracks it will be in time.

The biggest drawback of this is when playing to the click track I have the tendency to play a bit stiff. You need to find a balance. I try to "block out" the clicks during certain parts in my head and at certain points check to make sure I came back on the beat. Sure you can map out the increases and decreases beforehand, but sometimes they happen naturally. Then I need to go back and try to adjust the tempo settings later.

 

[charlie69]

What is zero crossing? I looked it up in the help file of HS 9, and there is no mention of it in the index.

 

[adam]

It is when the waveform crosses the 0 db line. This means that in the instance where they cross there is no sound. Cutting here eliminates any pops or crackles -- which occure when you cut a clip at a point where there is still sound -- anywhere other than o db

 

[Pinky]

The biggest drawback of this is when playing to the click track I have the tendency to play a bit stiff. You need to find a balance. I try to "block out" the clicks during certain parts in my head and at certain points check to make sure I came back on the beat. Sure you can map out the increases and decreases beforehand, but sometimes they happen naturally. Then I need to go back and try to adjust the tempo settings later.

Amazing! I was thinking about this 30 seconds ago, how "stiff" some of my recordings are compared to my live performing...

 

[adam]

yes, it is such a battle I find. You want something so sound natural and not stiff, but then, as I get into looping, stretching/shrinking, and soft synths, it is a pain when things don't line up right. Haven't found a solution yet.

If you are interested, you can check out some of my recordings at
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~adamcrose/index.html

I just have a few up, but you can hear my experiments with sonar.

 

[complexprocess]

Try developing your timing to the point where you can use count in measures to get you started, and then totally ignore them without getting out of time. It takes practice for some. Try keeping the beat of a song that's playing in your room while you go to the bathroom or something. See if you're still on when you get back.

alternately, tap your foot or count in your head (ONE, two, three, four,...) while a friend drops the volume to zero for a short time. see if you're on time when the volume is turned back up.

or you could try sharing a room for 19 years with your brother who is always listening to music. Eventually you'll be able to cary a beat through anything. =)

.scott