NO NEED TO SHOUT!!!!
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On the contrary, there is a need to shout when someone refuses to hear what you are saying. or ignores what you are saying because they have no argument against it.
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Yes, you do have discovered the one and only thing that you can't do with adat and you've milked it to death already. Why is it so hard for you to understand the many useful things you CAN DO with Adat that you SIMPLY CANNOT ACHIEVE WITH SCSI. Now I'm shouting, forgive me.
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That's just the point. Most people don't use the supposed "useful" things you are speaking of. I have no need in using my $800 dollar recorder as a mic preamp so that I can record on my computer, which I have never gotten even close to the same quality of recording out of, even with 24 bit/96k recording cards. The computer is a noisy machine, and I have to turn mine off while recording in the same room because of the noise.
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I'm talking here about INTEGRATING the VF to the computer to get the MOST out of this combo which should interest most people here but you're whining "but you can't save fostex file format" or "it takes 5 minutes more to transfer a song over to computer using Adat" which both has no relevancy in this scenario.
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Sure it does, because speed and convenience matter. And by the way, if we have a 4 minute song, and 24 tracks, you have to make three seperate passes to keep things in sync. that's 12 minutes of twiddling your thumbs while the tracks slowly record to the computer. With adat, people need use midi cables, learn about dropped frames, and go through menus to set up the slave and master, and don't forget about setting up the offset and such. These things are UNNECESSARY!!
Using your 16 track recorder as a mic preamp for the computer is simply not something that 95 percent of the people using these machines need to do. The VF has 24 tracks that can be sent to the computer for mixing, why on earth would you worry about using it as a mic preamp for the computer?
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If you would spend a total of 15 minutes per song for editing and mixing then those 5 minutes would have some meaning but if you spend hours or days as most people do mixing one song then the 5 minutes in the beginning doesn't mean anything.
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That's 12 minutes for 24 tracks of a 4 minute song, and you are assuming that the offset, dropped frames and menus need not even be fooled with. And using my $800 dollar recorder as a mic preamp is about the last thing in this world that I spent that money for. I need not worry about dropped frames, offset, buying midi cables, or having to switch midi cables from my drum machine to my VF, back and forth, setting up my software to sync, and then finding after I record that I had dropped frames, and that the syn didn't go well. Why put yourself through all that, when with scsi you can simply transfer 24 tracks at once, all in perfect sync, and load them up in Cooledit just as if you are loading wavs from any normal hard drive in your computer, fast and quick.
Yes, I would venture to say that 95 percent of the owners of a VF 16 track recorder record their music tracks on the VF, and simply want an easy way to move their recorded tracks over to the PC for editing, mixing, and burning. You also forget to mention portability. I can take my scsi drive with me on location, and if I need to move a track over for editing on someone else's computer, I can hook right into their printer port and load up a track as a wav on their computer, or even load all the tracks up and use their burner in their PC to make them a cd. this is especially helpful if someone has the vF-16 without the burner it it. This way, you still have a way to burn someone a cd while on location if they have a computer with a burner, which most people have in their computers these days. What are you going to do with your adat, pop your PCI card out and take it with you, and install it into someone else's computer, with drivers and all? PLEASE!!
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If you do the mixing on computer which we can pretty much take for granted here then you have no real use for backing up songs in Fostex format once the tracks have been transferred to the computer. Why on earth would you even do that?
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Very simple. Sometimes, days after mixing and burning, I may hear something in the song that I missed, or decide that the eq needs something different. Tell me, why do studios keep master tapes of the recording sessions after the album has already been mixed? I am surprised that you would even ask such a question, and this shows some desperation on your part. Also, have you never had a project that you had half-way done, but knew you weren't going to work on it for a while, maybe because the other musicians weren't going to be able to be back for a while? Maybe you start a song, and then loose your motivation to continue on it, and decide to wait and finish it later, with a new perspective? I may not want to leave this on my VF drive, especially if I have a 5 gig drive in the VF-16. Also, if I have 5 tracks recorded, I might want to move two or three over to the PC for editing, and than bring them back to the VF. I have no need for messing with dropped frames, offset, or master and slave menus, or waiting to move the tracks over in REALTIME. I can move them very fast, just like moving from one drive to another, quick and efficient, edit them in Cooledit, and bring them right back over, fast as moving wav files from one hard drive to another.
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Please, next time you post do come up with new and this time relevant things that you can do with scsi that you can't with adat.
Otherwise this is getting really boring.
