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How are you guys setting up CEP's buffers?

I saw in another thread that you get some pretty good track counts with Cool Edit Pro.

I'm running CEP 2.1 on a P-III 600 with 384 ram and a 20 gig HD, it seems that when I get upwards of 10 tracks or so, it really chokes up my HD, it runs like crazy.

I tried running 16 tracks, and unless I premix the entire session, after a few seconds the premix meter will start to drop, and after about 30-40 seconds the audio will get choppy.

I have tried adjusting the number and size of the buffers many times, it doen't seem to matter, an e-mail from their tech support just told me not to run real-time effects ( I only run 1 quickverb on buss "A", with all tracks routed ), and also to premix the entire session, but that's pretty lame, because as soon as you touch a fader, the premix is shot, and I'm right back to the problem again.

I can run Sonar 2.2 XL on the same machine and get 32 tracks (easily) and around 30 - 35 plugins, after that the plugins strain my CPU pretty good, but the raw track count doesn't choke up the HD at all, it runs nice and smooth.

Thanks for any help on this, I would like to be able to really use CEP for multi-tracking.

I have Windows 2000 Professional on the machine, and am recording 32 bit float 44.1 so it's not a sample rate thing, I just wish it would work more comparably to Sonar.
 
Here is a screen shot of how I have mine set up on my 2000 machine..
 

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This may or may not be different from the set up on my 98 machine which is not hooked up at the moment. (moving). I will post some info when it is hooked up VERY soon. :D
 
I used this last summer when I bought CEP 2 and I haven't touched them since, that I know of



Hey Scott- How'd you take a neat picture like that?
 
thanks for the info, at least until I get it working right, it's still a great editing and file conversion program.
 
Chrisjob said:
I used this last summer when I bought CEP 2 and I haven't touched them since, that I know of



Hey Scott- How'd you take a neat picture like that?
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I took a screen shot with Paint Shop Pro..
 
I've tried ALT > Print Screen on this board before, but it doesn't work for me. How come?
 
Okay:

Press PrintScreen/SysRq button, then open Paint (or something better if you have it) and press paste.


Ta-Da!
 
dobro said:
I've tried ALT > Print Screen on this board before, but it doesn't work for me. How come?
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All that does is copy it onto your cyber clipboard - you then have to Paste it into some program that imports graphics, like Powerpoint.

Here are the settings I use. I'm pretty sure the "2" is about as small as is practically usable, but I'm also dumb.
 

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I picked a VERY slow coputer to copy the settings from. Your computer would totally kick this computer's ass if they met up in a dark alley somewhere.

I've also got a 3GHz machine. I haven't messed with the default CEP settings on that one for the buffers...it wouldn't dare skip, lol.
 
I was having that problem with my Pentium 200mhz.
CEP would crash if I with too many tracks.

No problems so far with my P4.
 
Strryder said:
I tried running 16 tracks, and unless I premix the entire session, after a few seconds the premix meter will start to drop, and after about 30-40 seconds the audio will get choppy.

( I only run 1 quickverb on buss "A", with all tracks routed ), and also to premix the entire session, but that's pretty lame, because as soon as you touch a fader, the premix is shot, and I'm right back to the problem again.
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You know....I'm about convinced that using busses in CEP is a bad idea, b/c it just doesn't like it, lol. That's probably why CEP went to all the trouble to incorporate other kinds of real time effects routes. On the slower machines, I've set up tracks where every one was set up on "Bus A," (but only 3 or 4 actually had any "WET" setting signal at all) and run some low CPU plugin through it, and it still chokes up the session...Busses are great, b/c you can adjust the wet dry mix in real time, but that's not worth a crap if you can't play back, right? What I do to compensate for it, btw, is to use the bus to get the % of Wet on the track that I like, then remove the effect from the bus, and use it in real time as a locked effect...you can adjust the faders on the individual tracks this way w/o any interruption in playback...of course, you still have to wait for the track to "lock," and you have to unlock it if you wanna' do anything to it, which sucks. Mostly, I use the faster machine, lol.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful
 
Thank you guys very much for the effort, I have tried so many combinations of buffer size and numbers I'm lost on it..

As I said before, something just can't be right with the way the HD runs, CEP makes it run like crazy, I do not have any problems at all with Sonar 2.2 XL, the HD runs nice and smooth. I even took an old project, and copied enough tracks to give me 48 tracks, then bounced all the copies to clips, so that Sonar would actually copy all the audio, and really be playing back 48 seperate wave files at once, it could do this with no problem, 24 bit 44.1 khz. Plugins are different, because of my P-III 600, I can only run about 30-ish plugs before the CPU starts to get bogged down, I had 40 real-time plugs on one project that had 32 tracks running, the displays were sluggish as hell, but the song sounded right, and played all the way though.. it amazes me how much Sonar can deal with compared to CEP, but what the hell, CEP is still a great editing program, and just for that it was worth every penny.

Thruth be told, being a LOT old school about my recording/mixing methods, I GOTTA have "real" aux sends, so unless Adobe does some serious work to CEP's basic functionability in that dept, it wouldn't be a multi-tracking environment that I could comfortably work in anyway.
 
You should post this problem over on the Syntrillium site.. They may be able to figure it out..
 
Strryder, do you mind if I post this thread over at Sytrillium? I'm having a similar problem: I was getting pauses and stuttering, so I reinstalled Win 98. The problem diminished but didn't disappear entirely. I increased the number and size of the buffers. Still some hangups in playback.

I've got a P4 and loads of RAM - there's no excuse.
 
Not at all! If you get a satisfactory solution, give a shout over here..

I tried to get setup to post over there, got my name & password, then the confirmation crap, followed the instructions, and still couldn't log on...
 
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