Samson/Nady?

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How good/bad are the samson and nady drum mic packages? They sell for relatively the same price, each under $200, but the nady's come with 2 condensers for overheads. I want to record drums, but am on a very very tight budget. Currently I am micing using 2 condensers, but i want to be able to be able to mic each drum separately (5 piece). Anyone who has used these products, please let me know. Thanks!
 
As far as I know, not the place to go. What two mics do you already have? We can use them and suggest other mics to complement what you have.
 
i have an mxlv67 and sp b1...i'm just a student, so i don't have the best equipment...then again, i'm not trying to make million dollar recordings. I also have an art tube opl mp preamp, presonus comp16 compressor, and behringer eurorack ub2222fxpro (everyone here seems to hate these mixers...i'll agree, the preamps are a little noisy, but it works for me)
 
OK well you've got two fairly decent condensors, there are several options of what you could do:

a) Use them on kick and snare respectively, and buy a pair of MXL 603's, Oktava MK012's for overheads
b) Buy a second B1 and use them both as overheads
c) Work out another arrangement (could get a Shure SM57 on that snare)
d) Try and buy enough mics for everything (with that budget?)

If you use Recordermans drum micing technique, I can assure you you'll get a much punchier sound, so you don't REALLY need tom mics, so you can get away with 4 mics, especially if you're using LDC as overheads. However, with the budget you have, I'm sure you'll easily be able to get a decent sound, just need someone slightly more "in the know" to help you out.
 
I would say:
1. If you have an SM57, good. If you don't, buy a used one and stick it on the snare. If you already have or can borrow one, stick it on the snare.

2. With whatever money uou have left, buy a used kick drum mic, the best you can- AKG D112, AT25, Shure Beta52, Audix D-6, whatever. Then use the condensers as overheads, and buy a second B-1 later. With proper mic placement, you can get good sound out of the kit with 4 mics. Buying large numbers of really bad mics won't help.-Richie
 
It shouldn't be any trouble to get an SM57 (or a Senn. e835...I hear folks like that on a snare drum more than a 57) and an ATM25 for not much more than $200. Zzounds.com has the ATM25 for $140, and used 57s can be had in the 50-70 dollar range.
 
ok, thanks for the advice...makes sense, buy 2 good mics to get by, then buy tom mics later instead of buying 5 below par ones.

i've pretty much decided on the sm57 for the snare (that's what everyone seems to like on the snare at least, and i can get a new one for 69...if anyone know where i can get a cheaper one, please let me know)

As for the kick, i'm not sure...should i go for shure? :) beta 52...or the atm25? I'm also looking for versatility, so if i also wanted to mic a bass amp, which would be better? thanks for all the help!

(just outta curiousity, how are the ATDR drum mics? there's a big sale going on at guitar center and its tempting...someone talk me out of it...)
 
The ATM25 is less expensive (buy about $60 usually) and a lot of people have said that they find it easier to find the kick drum's "sweet spot" with the ATM25 than with the Beta 52. I've used both and I think the ATM25 sounds better, but I'm probably biased since the ATM25 is mine and the Beta 52 wasn't. Actually, the best kick sound I've gotten so far was with an ATM25 inside the kick pointed at the beater, and a Beta 52 about a foot outside, straight off the soundhole.
 
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