Routing audio theory

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get different processing with my effects in post production

take the LOOPS and do these kinda of LOOP rountings and LOOP configurations

different routings names and configurations

outine:
1.) Stereo
2.) Stereo (wet only)
3.) mono (wet only)
4.) Mono input/ stereo output
5.) Cascade
6.) Dual Mono
7.) Dual Stereo (parallel)
8.) Mono Split
9.) Behringer has like 6 more parallel ones
and 4 more series ones with no names

yea but only turns on and off effects thats its , it doesn't change the routing and configurations orders

What unit can change the routing paths and configurations orders??

Store and SAVE my routing and configuration setups as user presets
 
i need more definitions and meaning to these routing and configuration terms please?


I'm trying to take outboard gear in my rack and route and configure them in different orders and routing the inputs and outputs different with a mouse click or a button who makes such a thing or how can i do this please??
 
It's not really a standardized thing. Each of your fx units will have different routings available, and different ways of saving them. I mean, parallel is always the same idea no matter which box has it, for example, but not all boxes have all those configurations you've listed.

It really comes down to how you want to use the box in your studio and do you want a stereo effect or two mono effects. That depends on musical choices.

Also, if you are using the fx boxes with a mixer aux send you would set them globally to 100% wet, no dry signal. This is because you mix the amount of the effect back into the signal at the mixer, not in the fx box.

However, if you are running something like a guitar direct through the fx box, with no mixer, then you would adjust the wet/dry ration in the fx box. Hope that makes sense.
 
Thanks alot SonicAlbert for the help on this

outine:
1.) Stereo
2.) Stereo (wet only)
3.) mono (wet only)
4.) Mono input/ stereo output
5.) Cascade
6.) Dual Mono
7.) Dual Stereo (parallel)
8.) Mono Split
9.) Behringer has like 6 more parallel ones
and 4 more series ones with no names

If i have 2 guitar pedals and i want to use the inserts or Aux send and returns on my mixing board how can i get these different kinds of routing with them please

I need more meaning to these terms more routing terms to know them better
i can't picture them in my mind with a mixing board inserts,aux tracks using 2 outboard gear units or guitar pedals and patching them up like in these routings
 
Which Patch Bay can u SAVE and STORE User settings ??

and Change the routing and configuration and be able to SAVE and STORE these are patches or user presets??
 
walters said:
Which Patch Bay can u SAVE and STORE User settings ??

and Change the routing and configuration and be able to SAVE and STORE these are patches or user presets??
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I don't know how I can make it any clearer for you.

G.
 
Actually I used to own three patchbays that had programmable routings that you could store in 99 memory slots. There were two versions, unbalanced and balanced. I owned two of the unbalanced and one balanced. They were made by 360 Systems and were the AM-16 and the AM-16B (the "B" for balanced, and the "AM" for audio matrix).

They worked well and sounded pretty good. The thing is, I ultimately came to the conclusion that plain old patchbays with cables you swap around are actually faster and easier to use. The programmable patchbays with memory are great for permanent installations, like big venues, theme parks, that kind of thing. Places with elaborate sound systems that need to be configured for multiple different purposes in a short space of time. The guy running the convention hall might have one setup for a motivational speaker, and another for a trade show. Calling up one or the other pre-programmed would be a great thing in that situation.

But for your average home studio or even pro studio, swapping patch cables is really fast and easy.

For live gigging it could be handy if different configurations of fx boxes were to be used. You could just tap a button and come up with a totally different group of fx, or a different ordering of fx.

I believe there are or have been other programmable audio patchbays other than the 360 models, but I'm not sure of their names. The 360's were solid though, well built and designed pieces of gear.
 
Are you autistic walters?

no offence, just wondering
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
But you have to take up the carpet before you can take up the tax.
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A Marx Brothers reference on homerecording.com? I am so impressed!
 
Monkey Allen said:
Are you autistic walters?

no offence, just wondering
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If he is, I am almost positive he is savant. I think Walters is not really a troll. I haven't figured him out yet, but troll he isn't. Leastways not to my reasoning.

Walters, obviously isn't going away anytime soon.

Sonic Albert has given him some great answers. He is dealing with him in a good way I think.

I know it is hard for you guys to NOT to go after him though...it is hard for me NOT to do it!!... :D
 
walters said:
I read the manual i didn't see anything it saying it can take the LOOPS and do these kinda of LOOP rountings and LOOP configurations
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Didn't we cover this in the Frippertronics saga? :confused:
 
SonicAlbert your the man

I really need a programmable rounting and configuration patch bay so bad
i wish they made more of them i wish i knew the names of

fx boxes were to be used. You could just tap a button and come up with a totally different group of fx, or a different ordering of fx.

Yes its mostly for my multi effects processors rountings and configurations

If the patch bay is MIDI then u can Automate the patch bays rounting and configurations in a time line or switch and move the patch cords rounting and configurations

I love the option of saving and storing my rountings and configurations in presets no my cords around my room with noises intermitting problems and patch bay jack intermitten noises from jacks/plugs/cords

The difference between rounting vs configurations is that rounting is the inputs and outputs like mono in , dry split, stereo in , Left and Right channel input or output is crissed cross, merging , summiing, one channel is dry and other is dry+wet, or feedbacking loop like taking a pitch shifter and split the signal and put a tremolo or delay in the feedback loop and the use a summing stage to mix the input dry with the feedback this can all be done with a patch bay but i have to use alot of cords, summming,merging,feedback loop boxes its messy
 
These are preset rounting formulas: that can be stored in presets in the digital patch bay:

1.) Stereo
2.) Stereo (wet only)
3.) mono (wet only)
4.) Mono input/ stereo output
5.) Cascade
6.) Dual Mono
7.) Dual Stereo (parallel)
8.) Mono Split
9.) Behringer has like 6 more parallel ones
and 4 more series ones with no names


Configurations is this: putting gear,pedals,rackmount effects processors
in different orders these can be stored in programmable
digital patch bays as user presets really cool for me


When putting effects in different orders can it cause:

1.) overloading problems?
2.) impedance problems?
3.) DB level input and output matching problem?
4.) phase output or input problems?
5.) some pedals have inputs or output buffers other don't
when putting them in different order what kind of problems can
this cause please?
6.) Why does putting a dirty distorted input causes a wah or phaser to react different than a clean guitar signal
7.) some pedals have input passive or active summing and output passive or active summing stages and others don't
what can this do when u put different effects in different orders with these factors to think about please?
8.) Some pedals are Positive ground Vs Negative ground what kind of problems can this cause when putting
a Positive ground in series with a Negative ground or reverse the order or in parallel?
9.) Headroom some pedals or rackmouts use tube preamps,tube eq's,tube compressors which use 220v to 480v
lethal voltages but other pedals use +9 vols or +12volts so there is a headroom mismatching problems also

you can get weird interaction and interfacing results
 
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