Rough Mix II

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Hi,

This is a song I posted about two weeks ago.
I re recorded it with all the great advice you guys gave me,thanks!

I wanted to post it one more time before I do the final version.
The vocals are a scratch track,so I'll be redoing them,and anything else anyone thinks needs tweaking.

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1317&alid=-1

It's called"Iv'e Got You My Son"


Thanks again,
Pete
 
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pete!You might wanna change that link.It's a link straight into your artist area and the Edit links are active!
 
It's sounds cool muzeman,

I realy like the lead guitar sound/tone. How did you get that one.

I don't think you need that beat that's buried in the mix ;). The song is moving along fine without it. If you realy want percussion may I suggest mabbourine on ... 2 ... and some times on 2... 4
with 16th going in the chourus. That probably didn't make sence. :D

Anyway it's much cleaner sounding now. The vocal is little assssy (compression?). Also wen you have harp and slide reinforcing the vocal line they are kind of jumpy as in they jump at you, I don't know if there is a way to smooth that out. Also I said it before, I think if you record with those drums they mess your timing a little.

The song ends abruptly too don't know if you ment it that way.

cheers
 
I said it the last time, but imop this reminds me a bit of unplugged Clapton.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but this recording seems a bit too loud. I was listening to something, then when this song started, I had to dive for the volume knob! :D Maybe it's just in comparison to what I was listening to, but it seemed to maybe be too normalized ?? not sure, but needs to be a bit more dynamic imhop.. The part at 37ish before the chorus I like a lot.

If it was my tune, I would try to make the mix sound a bit more gentle by giving it a little breathing room...I dont think the levels for a tune like this should be so high... also I would bring up the cross stick sound.. I'm not even sure if it's there, or I'm just hearing it, but it sounds like for the most part just a little bass drum and that's it. I would either have a drum beat that you can hear a bit, or take it out all together..

this is just what I was thinking when I listened to it several times. Do something about the drums.. I think this tune would be good without any drums... but a beat you can hear could be cool too..


nice tune, it's sounding way better than the last time...


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sam
 
It's coming along pretty good. The low end is a lttle muddy and the acoustic jumps out a bit. Is that keyboard bass?

Overall it has a nice sound. Some shaker and conga's might be cool. Actually full drums for the second half would work also.

Nice song.
 
Fed-
Thanks for listening!

The lead guitar is recorded with a Dragonfly,turned sideways, even with the soundhole about 8 inches away.
The pre is a Mackie vlz direct to disc.

Your right,I messed the vocals up with compression to bring the level up,it was a scratch track.

Sam,
Thanks dude!

I mixed it on headphones,I should know better!
The levels are off a little.

I didn't normalize it,I'll try bringing the whole thing down when I remix.
Not sure what to do with the drums,I'll have to try it again.
I like the cross stick too.

Tax,
Thanks for taking the time!

I cheated with the bass,it's my telecaster through a J station with the bass setting.
Any ideas how I might make it sound better?

I actually have a track with bongos for it,think I'll try your and Sams suggestions,use the cross stick and bongos for the first part,and drums for the second.

Thanks very much for the help,
Pete
 
I agree that the drums are low in volume..and a little 'clicky' sounding. I pretty much agree with sabbath (for some odd reason:eek: ) about opening up the mix with some space. The song is very linear...the same levels, instruments...from beginning to end. Some dynamics would help your production, imo. And...I'm anal about those endings...like mentioned above.....oops!!

Your stuff 'begs' to be on the mellower side, and I think trying to get the instrumentation to jive with that idea might also help. As it is...they are kinda fighting each other to be heard, and kinda tinny, tinky sounding...with a real low bottom end thing going on.

I'm realizing that I'm just mentioning the negatives in this post, and sorry to be so lob-sided on that account. You have a nice singing voice, and the song is very nice. Adding dynamics (like I said earlier) would add more interest to your voice too...and thus the overall song.
 
You have a nice natural voice Pete.Im sure you could get an even better vocal after singing this song over and over for a couple of weeks to get the phrasings down to a T.
I thought the instrumentaion you chose fits the song pretty well.Is that a dobro or an acoustic slide?I like the harp blowing on the chorus.Nice acoustic guitar sound on the solo riffs toward the end.The drums are the only thing that seem to need tweaking.The kick needs to be felt more and the the side-stick on the snare needs to come up IMHO.

I really like the song.
 
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Sounds like Gordon Lightfoot to me. I like it. The guitar is basic but good, and the leads fit. But I agree about the drum thing, it doesn't really add anything. I also think the harmonica needs to go, or completely re-do that. How about altering the leads between the guitar and harmonica, instead of that droning harmonichord? Just my 2 cents. I think the recording quality is fine, I only played it lo-fi but it sounds clean.
 
Hi mix,
Thanks for the tips!

I'm not really sure what you guys mean by adding dynamics,play more dynamicly or add compression?

I have another version where I flatpicked/comped the rhythm guitar.
It's one of the first takes I did.
The recordings not that good,but gives you the feel!
I'll post it on Nowhere -

It's-
Take 2-

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1317&alid=-1


If you have a chance to listen,is that what you mean by more dynamic?

Kramer,
Thanks very much!
The slide is a Gretch historic series Dobro.
I'm trying to work out the drums now.
I know I definitly need to practice the vocals,I don't know the first thing about phrasing!

slkeen,
Thanks for listening!

Wow,Gordon Lightfoot,I wish!
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald,now there's a song!

I'm going to lighten up the harmonica parts,sounds to abrupt.
I wanted to play some melody on it, just not good enough!

Thanks very much,
Pete
 
Hey muzeman,
I can't seem to play or download it what's up?
Check it out
 
I don't know,it's been like that for days.
My whole page is down.
I thought it was a WMP problem again at Nowhere,so I didn't bother Waldo.
Guess I'll have to let him know.
Is anyone else able to stream it with another player?

Thanks,
Pete
 
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good show

you have got me hooked on your song. I am glad you posted this upgrade. I am going to download it to get a better sound. later...
 
Erland,
Thanks my friend.
I really like the words and melody,Gidge wrote it and was nice enough to let me record it.

Sam,
Thanks,I was up in your neck of the woods on the LIRR today delivering some kittens!
 
muzeman
I can't play version 2. can you make it downloadable?

cheers
 
Fed,

Thanks for taking the time!
I thought I made it downloadable to everyone when I posted it,must have missed it.

I just changed it.
If it still dosn't work,I can post it on my other site,if you still want to give a listen.

Thanks.
Best to you,
Pete
 
Pete,

i really like this version alot more.....im impressed with what youve done with the song....you have done it extreme justice.....

i like the percussion ideas (shakers,congas,etc)...i think that could be what the song needs to really bring it out.......

the lead guitar tone/playing fits like a glove.....it really highlights the song....id even add some filler lines to the chorus using it to help give it a lift....

as far as Take 2, its kinda thin to do a whole song that way....but it may work to do the intro the original way, come down to Take 2 for the verse, and go back the other way for the pre-chorus and chorus, adding the lead lines to the chorus.....that would give it some movement......

anyways, great job so far and i cant wait to hear more.......

Mike
 
muzeman said:
Hi mix,
Thanks for the tips!

I'm not really sure what you guys mean by adding dynamics,play more dynamicly or add compression?

>>>>>>

It's-
Take 2-

>>>>>>>

If you have a chance to listen,is that what you mean by more dynamic?
Click to expand...

by dynamics, I meant with the playing, nothing to do with recording techniques. More highs and lows to the music, musically. I'm not sure if take 2 really is more "dynamically" played(from beginning to end), but it is more laid back, and has a more open feeling to it that I like better than the earlier version. However, on the chorus's, I'd come up musically, ...like the solo starts to do at 1:25 (however, unfortunately it backs off in volume rather immediately). BUT, in addition to the playing I'd "dynamically" raise the bar with other things like harmonies, an added instrument, something to differentiate it from the verses. I think that was kinda along the lines of what Gidge might be thinking also.

anywaz....(enough jumping your sh!*....!!) ..be good, ole man.
thanks for the pm too.
 
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