Room mics for recording

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Is it possible to get a good live recording in a room using just rooms mics with the instruments un-mic'd?

If so, what mics do you recommend?

Does anyone know how Metallica recorded the "Garage Days - Revisted" CD back in '87?

Thanks.
 
Sorry, no experience, but I've always been curious to try out a pair of PZM type mics in our practice room, but have never been able to come up with the funds for the endeavor.
 
I think it depends on the room. I've heard good recordings done this way but the room has to sound good and/or you need to get the mics in just the right spot. Matter a fact that's exactly how the earliest recordings were done, nobody close miced things until Tom Dowd. Make everything sound even and go!:D
 
If it can sound good with your ears, it can sound good with a mic. It'll just be a pain in the ass to get it to work right most likely.
 
anyone have any other suggestions on mic selection for a room?

thanks for all your responses.
 
Just as it applies to most micing- Go slightly tighter/closer/dryer than your ear' would suggest to compensate for the mic's lack additional focus and isolation functions our ear/brain gives us.

Unfortunately a lot of otherwise good spots for catching 'stage perspective' are likely fouled up by floor monitors.
 
Sure.

If you set up a stereo pair, then carefully arrange the instruments around the pair, taking care to balance things left/right and keeping proper distance from the mics to get the desired balance between direct sound and room sound, you can get an excellent recording. In many respects, it's a hell of a lot easier than dealing with a couple of dozen tracks. It probably will not sound close-mic'd, but that may or may not be what you want.

The mics you choose, the room you are in, the quality of the instruments and sound, the ability of the band to play tight, etc. all become critical. (As they should be anyway :)). You can't fix anything in the mix.

I just made a pretty good recording with a pair of omni mics on a Jecklin disc. It was a jazz trio though - so a little room sound was more appropriate.

I'd be game to do it with a rock band. I love the omni/Jecklin thing. Omnis give you much more even response, especially low frequencies further from the mic. Omni room mics can really pick up a bass drum, for example. The Jecklin disc lets you use a pair of omnis while mitigating some of the drawbacks they have (all stereo recording methods have pros and cons).
 
Naiant makes some cheap omni mics that you could give a shot.


Mike
 
If you want to hear what a great stereo recording sounds like, listen to Chris Thile's "How to Grow a Woman from the Ground" album. All recorded using a stereo vintage Neumann on to - get this - stereo 2" tape.

There's a clip floating about somewhere on the net, where you can see him and his band "performing" in the studio - and it literally is a performance, with the soloist moving backwards and forwards from the mic.


Brilliant. Engineering at it's best IMHO.
 
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