Reverb on Bass Guitar and Kick Drum tracks…

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mixsit said:
Do you find sometimes to get verb to set right using eq to undo some of the mid tone (or pull that part of the source down) on the send?
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Not when using quality reverb. Unfortunately I have yet to hear a software reverb that I like. Pretty much they all sound like ass. The exception being the convolution reverb in Kontakt. But then again, that is a very limited application since I can't use it on anything else.

I am thinking of trying out the Altiverb demo, to see how that sounds. Seems to be getting a lot of good reviews... but then again, the Waves crap (TrueVerb, RealVerb) got good reviews too and they sound like ass.

And I have a hunch that this is the main reason why modern production esthetic has moved away from using reverb altogether, or using it sparingly, since a lot of stuff nowdays is done ITB, especially in dance music.
 
For me, when it comes to recording/audio, anything is fair game, even butt ugly sawtooths :D. If it works, it works. I can go further and I can say that I have an almost allergic reaction to any type of dogma.

If reverb sounds good on bass, then why the hell not? Sure, the concerns with the issues that this may cause are valid (muddyness, phase issues, etc.) but you can help alleviate these in many ways.

I have already mentioned EQ. Another thing one can do is use lower reverb times for the lower frequencies compared to higher ones. Any decent reverb has this feature. You can also use mono reverb and pan it either dead center or to a side. There are all kinds of possibilities.

Dogma is a dangerous thing.
 
miroslav said:
Well...this discussion has been interesting.

And the album project I just finished, I' was doing most of my bass DI, but I found a really nice combination that gives me that wooly, fat bass...not so much the hard, in-your-gut stuff.
I kinda wanted to keep the same overall signature sound to give the album a cohesive quality as much as possible rather than have it be just a bunch of songs stuck together in one CD.

As I get ready for my next album project...I'll probably change things up and go for something different...if the sounds grab me. :)
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Congrats! Let me know when it's out. I'd like to buy a copy.
 
noisewreck said:
Congrats! Let me know when it's out. I'd like to buy a copy.
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I'm working on the cover art right now...and then I have to decide if I want to use Discmakers or Oasis. I know there are others out there, but these two seem to have a "total package" and also offer some extras that go beyond just getting the CDs printed and replicated.

Anyway...I'm hoping by mid-October...?...to have the finished CDs.

Not sure if it's going to be your kind of music though since this album is more classic Rock/Pop stuff (but there’s some “noise” in there too. :D
My goal is to try and sell some of the songs, so I intentionally focused the album in a more commercial direction…but I think the songs are pretty good overall…it’s not just mindless Pop. ;)

My next one will probably have a more raw/harder Rock edge...though I've only done some basic drum tracks and roughed out ideas, so it's not quite gelled yet in my head. :)
 
Bob Ross said:
So are all axioms dogmatic by definition?
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No. The defining difference there (if I remember my college philosophy right, which itself is debatable and certainly not axiomatic ;) ) is that axioms are generally agreed-upon objective truths, whereas dogma tends to be more subjectively imposed belief.

Neither aphorism that noisewreck or I used in this exchange are true axioms. But when they are simply truisms personally followed to the point where they cannot ever be considered wrong, they are dogma.

At least I think that's how it works; my brain hurts trying to remember this stuff. :P

G.
 
miroslav said:
Not sure if it's going to be your kind of music though since this album is more classic Rock/Pop stuff (but there’s some “noise” in there too. :D
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I LOVE classic rock. Especially AC/DC. See? We can find common ground :p
 
miroslav said:
I'm working on the cover art right now...and then I have to decide if I want to use Discmakers or Oasis.
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If you decide to go with Oasis, let me know what your experience was. I've been eyeing them for a while now. Although, in my case, I am just thinking of releasing my stuff as 320kps mp3s. I'll be lucky if I could find 100 people that would want to spend money on "noise" :D
 
I mostly mix kit and bass dry.

But I use reverb on one or the other or both as the situation demands.

In the end, the music kind of lets you know what needs to be done.

There is no need to answer a case for either practice.
 
I usually go dry, but there are some songs where I want a nice, muddy swamp for the mix to stick in. It sounds bad, but when you suddenly cut the verb for the chorus, it's a neat effect. It's the timeless thing of dissonance increasing steadily, then sudden,glorious consonance.
 
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