Removing Floor Tom Constant Rumbling

[RecordingMaster]

Agreed. Moot point. I played with it more last night and am getting closer. I guess my original thought was to just remove that hum (some how), so i didn't have to use a gate in the first place. As for gating the input, I don't have an outboard noise gate, and probably never will. Like others have said, if the gate misses it, it's gone.

As for bleed, I set up most of my mics in a way to lower bleed, but when it comes to the FT mics, I don't have much of an option. I find if I place them awkwardly just to avoid bleed, they're in the way of other stuff which would hinder my performance due to not being perfectly comfortable with cymbals in places I'm not used to, eg abnormally high, etc.. It's especially due to the XLR cable which pretty much almost doubles the height of the mic. I figure I'd rather get a great live take of me playing comfortably and naturally with a little bleed (which I have been working with just fine. The snare and hats and other stuff are barely there at all once I gate), rather than perfectly separated drums and a sub par drum take lacking confidence.

Thanks for all the help guys. Seriously, you've given me lots of ideas to work with, most of which are working for me. Like I said in the first phrase of this post, I'm new to fancy schmancy gates and such!

Cheers.

 

[ecktronic]

Dude....

I knew you would like that idea Greg.
You do realize this is the Mixing section and not the recording section? And that the OP is looking for a fix at Mixing?
Yeah it should be fixed at the source, drums, mics, mic placement, but that's more recording issues.

G

 

[Greg_L]

I knew you would like that idea Greg.
You do realize this is the Mixing section and not the recording section? And that the OP is looking for a fix at Mixing?
Yeah it should be fixed at the source, drums, mics, mic placement, but that's more recording issues.

G

Yup, I do realize that. Doesn't matter. Bad ideas are still bad ideas.

 

[Supercreep]

IYou do realize this is the Mixing section and not the recording section? And that the OP is looking for a fix at Mixing?
Yeah it should be fixed at the source, drums, mics, mic placement, but that's more recording issues.

G

It is important to understand the relationship between recording and mixing. Greg's advice is well-placed.

 

[RawDepth]

Here is my fix.

This is one of those heavy memory foam pillows. I place it between the kick and tom. Its density blocks a good bit of the direct energy coming from the kick. That energy is probably the cause of most of the tom rumble. It's like a big moon gel, but not on the drum head.

In fact, be careful not to allow it to touch either drum head, (kick or tom reso.) Result = Less rumble, but does not change the attack or tail of the tom. It doesn't eliminate all of the rumble, but it cuts it down considerably.

 

[mixsit]

Here is my fix.

This is one of those heavy memory foam pillows. I place it between the kick and tom. Its density blocks a good bit of the direct energy coming from the kick. That energy is probably the cause of most of the tom rumble. It's like a big moon gel, but not on the drum head.

In fact, be careful not to allow it to touch either drum head, (kick or tom reso.) Result = Less rumble, but does not change the attack or tail of the tom. It doesn't eliminate all of the rumble, but it cuts it down considerably.

Inovations :>)

Tell me 'bout the bands on the floor tom head. Don't know that I've seen that before.

 

[Farview]

Inovations :>)

Tell me 'bout the bands on the floor tom head. Don't know that I've seen that before.

Those are just Evan's version of Remo's pinstripes. The head comes that way.

 

[Greg_L]

Evans EC2 clears. Great tom heads. I use em myself.

 

[mixsit]

Evans EC2 clears. Great tom heads. I use em myself.

1Thanks
Would that a bit of extra weight for dampening around the edge?

 

[Greg_L]

1Thanks
Would that a bit of extra weight for dampening around the edge?

I don't know what the "science" is behind it. They're 2-ply heads with that ring in the middle, but they're far from dead. They are deep and resonant with subtle bright overtones that you typically find with clear heads. I like em.