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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
I know I have asked some of this before, but would like all good advise in one thread, to make it a bit easier to consider and apply.
For serious recording, I have access to my son's pretty well turned out and purpose-built recording studio. However, he and it are in New Orleans, I and my too-big guitar group are here in Marietta (Atlanta.)
I seem to be much better at live sound than recording, and have learned that they are almost entirely different spheres.
The TBGG consist of seven or eight folks, sometimes as many as ten. Names will be withheld, replaced with letters:
W- electric jazz lead guitarist. Very good at that. Does not play too loud.
B- Frenchhorn and occasional acoustic guitar. Some vocals.
SB- electric and acoustic guitar. Harmonica. Developing some slide- we'll see where that goes. Some vocals, experienced with choral vocals- baritone.
V- jazzy/poppy electric and acoustic lead guitar. Slide, too.
SK- Acoustic guitar. Mostly strummer. Some vocals.
Do- mostly light drums and percussion. Some acoustic guitar, but steadfastly refuses to mic or pup guitar in performance, feeling like he is not adding anything- a refreshing attitude, as some of these guys DON'T always know when to be quiet.
Da- Acoustic guitar. Likes bluegrass, some flatpicking. Some vocals. experienced with choral vocals- bass.
Wa- acoustic guitar and mandolin.
Occasionaly, electronic keyboard and/or piano, from G.
Bass is passed around.
We rehearse in a UU church sanctuary, about 40' x 50 cube', with very high (20'?) ceilings. Pews, carpet only on dais, very live space, I am afraid. Eventually some sound treatment will be done to the space, but not sure when, could be months or years from now- or never.
We are moving forward, finally, after a perhaps too-long time, to figuring out how to keep the sheer SPL down, and avoid (somewhat) the muddiness. It would be good to record our sessions, and that's where this post comes in...
I own a Tascam DP-01. A buddy own a DP-01FX and an -01 (his 01 is for sale, may be gone already.) I am thinking of recording to both, simultaniously, but may just record to one.
What would be a good, VERY budget priced pair of condensers (my EV 40-series went to New Orleans, and anyway I want something easier to handle and less likely to be damaged by accidental rough handling.) Condensers from a budget NADY drum mic set were way too hi-frequency, and essentially useless for this application. Or, should I use dynamics? Save me some trial-and-error time- where would be the best placement of mics, to start from?
I hope to buy a used Roland VS-1680. That would give me luxury of recording up to 8 tracks at once- call it four to keep from getting too complicated- what suggestions can I garner as to mic choice and placement?
Regardless of what I record to, or how many tracks, I would want to soon get to the set-it-up-and-let-it-run point.
Thanks for letting me recover some old and some new ground.
For serious recording, I have access to my son's pretty well turned out and purpose-built recording studio. However, he and it are in New Orleans, I and my too-big guitar group are here in Marietta (Atlanta.)
I seem to be much better at live sound than recording, and have learned that they are almost entirely different spheres.
The TBGG consist of seven or eight folks, sometimes as many as ten. Names will be withheld, replaced with letters:
W- electric jazz lead guitarist. Very good at that. Does not play too loud.
B- Frenchhorn and occasional acoustic guitar. Some vocals.
SB- electric and acoustic guitar. Harmonica. Developing some slide- we'll see where that goes. Some vocals, experienced with choral vocals- baritone.
V- jazzy/poppy electric and acoustic lead guitar. Slide, too.
SK- Acoustic guitar. Mostly strummer. Some vocals.
Do- mostly light drums and percussion. Some acoustic guitar, but steadfastly refuses to mic or pup guitar in performance, feeling like he is not adding anything- a refreshing attitude, as some of these guys DON'T always know when to be quiet.
Da- Acoustic guitar. Likes bluegrass, some flatpicking. Some vocals. experienced with choral vocals- bass.
Wa- acoustic guitar and mandolin.
Occasionaly, electronic keyboard and/or piano, from G.
Bass is passed around.
We rehearse in a UU church sanctuary, about 40' x 50 cube', with very high (20'?) ceilings. Pews, carpet only on dais, very live space, I am afraid. Eventually some sound treatment will be done to the space, but not sure when, could be months or years from now- or never.
We are moving forward, finally, after a perhaps too-long time, to figuring out how to keep the sheer SPL down, and avoid (somewhat) the muddiness. It would be good to record our sessions, and that's where this post comes in...
I own a Tascam DP-01. A buddy own a DP-01FX and an -01 (his 01 is for sale, may be gone already.) I am thinking of recording to both, simultaniously, but may just record to one.
What would be a good, VERY budget priced pair of condensers (my EV 40-series went to New Orleans, and anyway I want something easier to handle and less likely to be damaged by accidental rough handling.) Condensers from a budget NADY drum mic set were way too hi-frequency, and essentially useless for this application. Or, should I use dynamics? Save me some trial-and-error time- where would be the best placement of mics, to start from?
I hope to buy a used Roland VS-1680. That would give me luxury of recording up to 8 tracks at once- call it four to keep from getting too complicated- what suggestions can I garner as to mic choice and placement?
Regardless of what I record to, or how many tracks, I would want to soon get to the set-it-up-and-let-it-run point.
Thanks for letting me recover some old and some new ground.
