refinishing

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Shoot, just rattle-can some purple on top of that black!


























Just kidding. :D :D

(Those are both very nice, BTW. :) )
 
Shoot, just rattle-can some purple on top of that black!

Just kidding. :D :D

(Those are both very nice, BTW. :) )

haha. i suck with my hands at everything except music and sex. so even if i had a professional sitting with me explaining every step of the way i'd still manage to fuck it up lol.

yes they are both nice. when i was looking for the guitar the only colour i was considering was the violet burst. when they told me they didn't have that, but had an ebony in stock i thought an all black guitar can't look all that bad. and it doesn't. it's beautiful. i just can't get the idea out of my head that i want it to be violet burst. if the idea hasn't gone away by the time i have the money to do it, i'm doing it for sure. :)
 
We've had this out a few times now and it is becoming tiresome.

I'll just start with some FACTS...

The reraunch rattle can nitro is NOT the same as the nitro that is used on any high end nitro finished guitar.

You cannot get a "professional" finish with rattle cans despite what anyone says. You may be able to get an acceptable finish but not a professional finish. You might not be able to tell the difference but I and many others in the trade will be able to spot it from across the room.

Some reasons why rattle cans are inferior, You cannot control the flow, even if you warm them they spit. You can not add any fisheye or flow out additives to it, let alone the fact that you cannot shoot flat wet coats with a spray can because you cannot adjust the nozzle or spray pattern. You cannot adjust the flow or build to account for the meniscus build at the neck and fingerboard join. You cannot have several guns with different tips on hand for those tricky bits. An acceptable finish yes. A finish to match a top end guitar, a Les Paul for example, never going to happen.

Black is the hardest finish to get right. The only thing harder is a good burst. With this you would attempting both. Even if Gibson did the job it would not be as the good as a guitar finished to that spec from the white. They use different ground prep for different finishes. Some of which would be bound to the grain after it is stripped. There would also likely be issues with the binding.

You would be unlikely to be able to match the colour in the picture on Gibson's website. Matching the colour of any finish is an art that takes a lifetime to master on its own.

What are you suggesting here?? Neither have a part in a professional guitar finish let alone a specialised burst.
Not unless they are practiced and competent when it comes to shooting bursts. I Know one person here in the UK. He does most of mine because he's better than me and in the long run that saves me money and gives peace of mind. A good burst is a joy an average one just looks well... bad.

Nope, It's normally myself or Light advising people not to get involved in refinishing without serious and I mean serious research and consideration. As I understand from Light he doesn't do refinishing for profit or otherwise, neither do I. There is a reason for that. I finish guitars all the time but not refinishing. We both hand out plenty of tips on how to do stuff yourself and I will continue to do so despite the fact that I do it for profit. Just as a matter of interest Jimistone, what do you do for your living??

I know we've been over this in the past but I will continue advise extreme caution to those that think refinishing is a viable proposition just as long as you keep telling everyone it's a breeze with Reraunch rattle cans.

For anyone that really wants to do it I'll just offer this advice. Do some serious research, practice on junkers, familiarise yourself with health and safety issues. If you still up for it I'd be happy to advise on specifics.

Nicole_Rose, I would seriously live with the guitar you have and start saving for that lovely looking burst on your next LP. You will not regret it.

I'm only going to address 2 points, because I can't post 24/7 in the guitar forums ...I have to work for a living.

First, just because YOU can't get the desired results from rattle can nitro doesn't mean it can't be done...get over yourself.

Secondly, when I was talking about gloss black showing imperfections and I suggested spraying flat black because it dosen't show imperfections ...I was being sarcastic...develop a sense of humor.
 
Secondly, when I was talking about gloss black showing imperfections and I suggested spraying flat black because it dosen't show imperfections ...I was being sarcastic...develop a sense of humor.
Yeh right,!!


No wait a minute... I get it now

It's so clear to me... how foolish of me... I feel such an idiot....:rolleyes:

I'm over it now. :D
 
refinish ??

could you possibly just do the top ??? just from the binding up ??? it would save you $$$ by not doing the entire thing ........... just a thought ..... thats what i would do ............. please have a pro do it .... it is way too nice to let someone screw it up
 
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