Recording School

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rvdsm said:
Why would it have taken longer if you had not gone to a recording school?


Because I got there and knew pro tools very well had my quick keys down. I knew MIDI well enough to figure out there gear in a few Minutes. I only do tracking because I need to develop my ears, but its a lot better then cleaning toilets. If I had not gone to school I can't even imagine how long this would have taken me.
 
sk8ingsnowman said:
Because I got there and knew pro tools very well had my quick keys down. I knew MIDI well enough to figure out there gear in a few Minutes. I only do tracking because I need to develop my ears, but its a lot better then cleaning toilets. If I had not gone to school I can't even imagine how long this would have taken me.

Isn't it fair to say that you could have learned Pro Tools without going to a recording school?
 
"Isn't it fair to say that you could have learned Pro Tools without going to a recording school?"

I think his point was that it took less time by going to recording school, as he learned everything in a focused manner instead of waiting to stumble over it.

The same type of discussion usually happens when people talk about guitar or voice lessons. You don't HAVE to take them to get good, but most people will find the progress is much faster with a defined curriculum.
 
randyfromde said:
"Isn't it fair to say that you could have learned Pro Tools without going to a recording school?"

I think his point was that it took less time by going to recording school, as he learned everything in a focused manner instead of waiting to stumble over it.

The same type of discussion usually happens when people talk about guitar or voice lessons. You don't HAVE to take them to get good, but most people will find the progress is much faster with a defined curriculum.

I said it on another post, but I'll echo it in this one. If spending $40,000 just to learn some equipment sounds like a good idea to you, then by all means do it. :p
 
rvdsm said:
I said it on another post, but I'll echo it in this one. If spending $40,000 just to learn some equipment sounds like a good idea to you, then by all means do it. :p

Your forgetting that for the 40k you also get an A.S. degree not spectacular but it got me a $2/hour raise and a managment position at my current Full time job.

Making more money doing less work and working part time at a studio. My hard work is starting to pay off :)
 
I agree with sk8ingsnowman. Columbia got me a Bachelor of Arts, and for me, since my parents practically forced college on me, at least I had a chance to major in sound an not something totally boring to me like economics or something

Hope I didn't upset any Eco majors out there...
 
rvdsm said:
Why would it have taken longer if you had not gone to a recording school?


I don't know about anyone else, but I learned a lot of basic concepts in the classroom enviroment of school which I would have had a hard time learning without having a teacher. I know a lot of preaty good audio guys who could be much better, but they are held back by thier lack of theoretical knowledge. They have the ears and the artistic side down, they just don't have the technical knowledge.


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he, I can tell a funny story about this.....I always thought that education for the recording engineer was bull....I studied 2 years at the conservatory experimental music..big mistake (and I have heard nothing about students graduating that course....so I switched to a music technologie course (also 4 years education)...

after 2 years there I was facing a dilemma....I was able to make a decent living by then from the job...so should I stay in school or go for the real thing...I chose the second and don't regret it for a second....right now I have my own company and things are running great...never heard anything about my old classroommates...................

until two weeks ago....seems like some of the graduated got topjobs in our national number 1 recording studio...there tweaking the knobs of ssl9000's and lexicon 480's.......????

One person of whom I thought would ended up as a keyboardsalesman actually became real famous with his band....

so conclusion....out of 40 students I know....2 got a real cool recording job, and one got famous....

Is it due to the education? Well I guess I'll never know, but from what I'm thinking....those guys used there school's contacts to get in touch with the big boys...once they got the contact they obviously showed they were able to do the job.....learned that at school?....I don't think so....combination of skill and luck....

So education in this field is cool to provide some contacts in the industry, but it's like always....you'll have to prove yourself....

because I own my own recording company, I had several real pro jobs offered, one was to travel the world helping all the major producers getting their material onto dsd....yep, for the philips sacd programm....one of the inhouse philips senior-engineers who worked intensively with the realisation of sacd had trwon my name on the table......unluckily 2 months before starting the job it was cancelled because of financial reasons (can you name somebody with a sacd player?)......so another lucky break into the bin....but the're will be more....he, I made it this far....just a matter of licking your wounds and proceed further.....
 
KaosTheory2.0 said:
In Maryland, look up Sheffield School for the Recording Arts. The reality though, is that once you graduate, you find yourself in a job market that is already over saturated.

What part of Maryland are you in?

yeah, over saturated with people who don't know what the hell they are doing
 
What's the consensus here about the Recording Connection, the program out of LA that puts you in a local studio for the "apprentice" learning method? Anyone here checked this out?
 
FULL SAIL

hey... my brother goes to fullsail.. hes 19... he decided that music was wat he wanted to work with.. hes in the recording arts program...i asked him how he was doin.. he said he was gettin 87, 90 and 89 on his last few exams he had about computers and music history and that... ( hasnt starrted using PT yet) ... well he will graduate in 10 months or so...wat are ur ppls thoughts about his chances on gettin a job ?? how much u think he will start off makin? does he have a chance?
 
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lbcstudios said:
wat are ur ppls thoughts about his chances on gettin a job ?? how much u think he will start off makin? does he have a chance?
IMO, he's got about the same chance as someone who didn't go in there (but was seriously interested in recording)..... it's also not going to earn him any better pay than someone who didn't go to "recording school."

Schools are about helping you learn your craft, not about what money you'll get because of the school.

Some people learn better by hands-on experience after self-study, others by instructors. At least for the recording industry, either route you go nets you the same starting point - at best a gopher spot in studio somewhere for little money until you get some serious experience and chops under your belt.
 
or start for your own...me and some not named bear did it.........still up and running
 
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Blue Bear Sound said:
IMO, he's got about the same chance as someone who didn't go in there (but was seriously interested in recording).....
 
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