recording live

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i wanted to record my band practices better than i have been doing it by plugging in my vocal mic directly into my porta studio while also plugging it into the PA. i figure the only way to do this is to get a mic splitter, but is there another way? or is there a better way?

I also would gladly accept some ideas on how to record everyone better. it's a four piece band: two guitars, a bassist, a drummer and vocals. i got two mics infront of each guitar amp, the bass i'm probably gonna mic for now (but when i get the money i'm gonna buy a DI box), there's the vocal mic with the above mentioned strategy, two overhead pencil condensor mics above the drum kit a snare mic and a kick mic. I can only record 8 things at one time with the porta studio that i have (a tascam 2488MKII). any suggestions on how to do this or does this sound good enough?

thanks
 
8 ought to do it, will 4 drums, 2 guitars, 1 bass, and 1 vox cover it? What kind of mixer do you have for your PA? If it has direct outs, you could mic everything into your mixer, and run the direct outs to your 2488. (Or inserts 1/2-jacked). That's probably the best way,

If you don't have direct outs, the 2488mkii has 4 preamps, do you have some outboard mic pre's? If you do, you could mic everything into your 2488, then run the monitor outs to your PA to make it loud(er). Either way, isolating all your instruments will probably be your biggest problem.
 
i tried to run everything into my 2488, then run the monitor outs to your PA but the condensor mics cause a really horrid feedback out of the PA so i'm trying to avoid that by recording with the condensors but not involving the PA to be near the condensors.

What's causing the feedback when condensor mics are next to the PA?

my PA isn't very powerful. I've got the Yamaha Stage pas 300
 
Feedback happens when your mic can hear the monitors. You sing, the mic picks it up and plays it thru the monitors. Now the mic is picking up your singing AND the monitors playing your singing, which is louder than just you singing alone. So the mic picks up that louder signal, and the monitors play it even louder. The mic picks up this even louder signal, and plays it even more louder. etc etc etc.. Frequency response of the PA and the room acoustics will determine which frequencies are feeding back.

There's a few ways to kill feedback.

1 - Don't let the mic hear the monitors. Can you get a headphone amp and play thru headphones?

2 - Turn down your monitors so the mic isn't picking them up so much.

3 - Figure out which frequencies are feeding back, and use an EQ to notch those frequencies out. Some EQ's can determine which freq's are the problem, and automatically cut them back, or at least tell you what freq's are the problem via LED's or whatever.
 
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