recording guitar track

[asv]

Hey dudes,

I'm planning to record a guitar track this weekend.

It sounds like U2ish kinda guitar sound.

Question is: Do i record the guitar part 'CLEAN' and add 'delay' later when i mix them? OR just record the guitar along with the delay effect using my external effect pedal?

Looking forward to hearing from you

Alvin

 

[moresound]

Hey Alvin .... adding delay to the guitar after may find some unwanted side affect.
You would want to record the FX guitar the way you hear it with the delay to help keep things in time. For once you start to add delay after you may find that you should have held a note or a chord just a tiny bit longer or shorter to get the FEEL of the song just right.

 

[asv]

So record the guitar with the desired delay pedal?

The delay sound that i'm after is not like the delay sound to make it sounds longer, etc. It's more like a repetitive sounds that you hear like U2 kinda delay setting.

I did record a clean thru and apply delay later and it's hard to get it synched with the timing
have a listen www.soundclick.com/asvproject click on 'seperti dulu'

 

[RAMI]

So record the guitar with the desired delay pedal?

The delay sound that i'm after is not like the delay sound to make it sounds longer, etc. It's more like a repetitive sounds that you hear like U2 kinda delay setting.

I did record a clean thru and apply delay later and it's hard to get it synched with the timing
have a listen www.soundclick.com/asvproject click on 'seperti dulu'

if you think you can nail the part without delay, add it later. It's a lot easier to do punch-ins without a delay trail.

 

[pure.fusion]

Yep, I would be right on the boarder line on that one.

If the guitar part was very repetitious, and I could nail it in the first (few) takes then why not record the delay to the track - assuming that the delay is obviously a fundamental part of the song (like U2).

If the conditions varied from above, I'd be going in dry from the mic in front of my cabinet and applying delay afterwards.

Generally, I'm all for *more* flexibility in recordings and spend an enormous amount of "fun" time mixing songs.

Right now, I can already think of how I might fiddle with the delay possibilities if I had a shot at the dry track....

Cheers,
FM

 

[RAMI]

if you think you can nail the part without delay, add it later. It's a lot easier to do punch-ins without a delay trail.

Yeah, I guess that's sort of a bit of a contradiction from me. If you can nail the part, then why worry about having to punch-in?

 

[legionserial]

The logical answer is to try both and see which one works best for you.

 

[moresound]

The delay sound that i'm after is not like the delay sound to make it sounds longer, etc. It's more like a repetitive sounds that you hear like U2 kinda delay setting.

Aaaah .... bagpipe guitar one of my favorites.

 

[asv]

I like tracking a clean guitar and adding delay when I mix the song, but its pretty time consuming trying / editing VST delay on the computer and while its easier to just track it with the external delay pedal.

I was told that its better to record clean sound without effects. Is it right?

 

[RAMI]

I was told that its better to record clean sound without effects. Is it right?

In general, yes. But a lot of guitar players consider their guitar effects as part of their sound, so they will prefer to record with their sound.

How is calling up a delay and setting the time, feedback, etc. "time-consuming"????

 

[legionserial]

How is calling up a delay and setting the time, feedback, etc. "time-consuming"????

I agree with this. I actually find fine tuning the delay for recording to be way more time consuming. I mean, it's maybe 5 minutes, but that's about 4 minutes more than it takes to add it on afterwards as a VST given that you can get you VST to match perfectly to the tempo. Whereas turning a tiny little dial on a stompbox a fraction of a degree to absolute precision isn't quite as simple.

 

[Neve4Ever]

I agree with this. I actually find fine tuning the delay for recording to be way more time consuming. I mean, it's maybe 5 minutes, but that's about 4 minutes more than it takes to add it on afterwards as a VST given that you can get you VST to match perfectly to the tempo. Whereas turning a tiny little dial on a stompbox a fraction of a degree to absolute precision isn't quite as simple.

There are many delay pedals with a tap tempo.

Just my 2 cts.

 

[mattdee1]

Personally, I always apply delay while mixing instead of using my stomp box to print the effect. I'm not sure why anybody would want to do it any other way, it's just so much more flexible. You can lock the delay into the tempo, you can adjust the decay time, you can adjust the FX level, etc. without having to re-track.

I understand that sometimes hearing the effect helps guide the performance, so if that's the case, just monitor with the plug-in activated (assuming your computer is powerful enough to do so).

 

[legionserial]

There are many delay pedals with a tap tempo.

Just my 2 cts.

Yeah. Mine does. I don't like it. Not when the delay is pretty fast anyway. Which is what it is 90% of the time I use delay. Which isn't often.

As for whether to use a stompbox or a VST, it all depends what I'm doing. If I'm merely adding to the guitar sound, it'll be VST. If it's an integral part of the guitar sound, I use the stompbox.

 

[asv]

I have to put the exact delay setting on the computer / vst plug in as it is on my actual pedal.

But, yeah thanks for infos guys! This forum is awesome! Haha

 

[mlamm]

Hey dudes,

I'm planning to record a guitar track this weekend.

It sounds like U2ish kinda guitar sound.

Question is: Do i record the guitar part 'CLEAN' and add 'delay' later when i mix them? OR just record the guitar along with the delay effect using my external effect pedal?

Looking forward to hearing from you

Alvin

Hi ASV
Just wondering how you get such a great delay sound. Care to share??
Mick