Recording from the Delta 44

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Hey
I just recently purchased a Delta 44 and also a
Behringer Eurodesk for my so called "DAW" computer, for microphones my band has an sm57, sm58, JTS bass kick mic and a crappy condenser mic which we bought off ebay, we going to borrow more mics from a friend of mine. Anyway we are hoping to get good enough quality recordings for our local radio station and I was wondering what other equipment we need to acheive this, I know we are limited to 4 mics to record the drums because of the delta 44 but would a pre-amp or a compresser be needed or would the Eurodesk cover that?

So what I'm asking is what more would you buy if you were starting with this equipment and were hopng to get decent quality sound for a punk rock band ? I know there must be millions of options but I just want to know if I have more than enough.
Thanks
Mark
 
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4 mics is plenty to get a good drum sound.

Next thing I'd buy in your situation would be some reasonably priced monitors so you can hear your mixes properly. Have a look at the Wharfedale, M-Audio, Tapco stuff
 
i dont mean to shit on your question.....off topic......but why did you need that big of a mixer? unless you bought it to double as a PA......which you probably did...anyway just a thought

Adam
 
Kiauma said:
Definitely gonna need some preamps.
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In a practical sense, your BRNGR desk will supply the mic pre-amping needed for your delta-44's inputs. (.......and 4 is plenty for a drum kit).
In a quality sense, you're going to need some pre-amps. :)
 
Hey thanks for all the replies
Yes the mixer is also used for a PA system and I was just wondering if i could use the PA speakers for monitering aswell or is that a stupid idea ?
Hmmm so im looking to buy a Pre-amp, a condenser mic for the drums and vocals and if needed some moniter speakers..
Im kinda on a budget here, so any ideas for a pre-amp that would be helpful
Oh and if anyone here has ever recorded drums with a delta 44, what kind of setup did u have with only 4 mics ?
Thanks alot, this site is very helpful
Mark
 
outdriven said:
Oh and if anyone here has ever recorded drums with a delta 44, what kind of setup did u have with only 4 mics ?
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Snare, Kick, 2xOverheads. A very basic, standard drum mic setup. I generally like my overheads in an XY configuration, but OTRF, spaced-pair, etc. will also work.
 
Ok well I just read in another thread that you need direct outs in your mixer for you to record each drum part in a seperate track with the delta 44, so would i connect a phono cable from one of the inputs in the delta 44 to the INSERT I/O on one of the channels in the behringer mixer and then a mic connected to the xlr...? Also I hear alot of people pan their snare and bass hard left and right, what effect does this do, is it something to do with stereo ?
Thanks alot, I have a feeling these are noobish questions
 
I use a Simular setup to you so I might be able to give you some Ideas.....

What I do is I have My drums Miced up with 8 Mics going into my Mixer and output in stereo to inputs 1 and 2 on the Delta 44....

You will have to do a Bunch of recording tests and Mixer adjusting untill you get the Drum mix perfect but once it is set up correctly you won"t have to touch it again.....

Then you go DI with the Bass going into the Mixer and out one of the Inserts into Channel 3 of the Delta and Record your Tracks with just Drums and Bass (Stereo Drums and a Bass Track) This way you also Minimize track bleeding....The once you have the Drum and Bass Tracks down you can add Guitar and Vocal tracks.....

This is what I have been doing and I have been getting Pretty Good results and for my anyways I get a Much better drum sound Micing every Drum Pluss 2 Overheads (I also use 2 mics on Bass drum).....


Cheers
 
I think a better idea would be to use your channel inserts and go into your soundcard as individual tracks rather sending a stereo mix to your computer (because then there is no adjusting individual mics after it's recorded).

Since your board has inserts you need to plug the cable in to the first "click" instead of all the way, just to tap the signal, otherwise it'll cut off the sound all the way in. If you don't like that trick, Hosa makes some cheap cables that convert the insert to a direct out, but it's basically wiring the tip and ring together to do that.
 
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