metaljoseph
Dedicated Member
Do you guys prefer D.I. or micing when recording bass. So far I have only been going D.I. and am mildly impressed with the sound. Is micing better and more powerful? What is a good mic for bass?
M
Matheon
New member
i've never tried micing my bass.
i always D.I.
i may be wrong but i've always felt direct lines with stuff really kills high end but i've never had a problem with bass. i don't know why that is.
i always D.I.
i may be wrong but i've always felt direct lines with stuff really kills high end but i've never had a problem with bass. i don't know why that is.
H
Han
New member
metaljoseph said:
I always record bass both with a DI and a microphone.
The mics I prefer are AKG D12E, Sennheiser MD441 or MD421, Beyer M88, Neumann M149, MXL V77S, Studio Projects B1 and sometimes a Beyer M260 ribbon.
B
bcains
New member
I mic the cab and also send it through a D.I, so i can blend my mix according to how i want it. Whether i want more "dirty" sound or "clean" sound, depending on the song.
Mics i use are: AKG D550, AKG D112 or Sennheiser 421
Mics i use are: AKG D550, AKG D112 or Sennheiser 421
Massive Master
www.massivemastering.com
Another vote for "dual mode" bass recording.
metaljoseph
Dedicated Member
Thanx guys I'll try that.
F
fazil
New member
Try close micing with a D112. Sounds amazing on our bassplayers ampeg 4x10.
R
RedFrogAudio
New member
This might be extreamly unpopular, but this has worked in the past (sometimes). Durring ine session I ran out of mics, but stilled wanted to do the bass di/mic thing. So I went to the back and found a SM57. I miked it just like a guitar amp (stright on the cone) and mixed it with the DI. The sound was a bit more edgy than i usually like, but it's kind of a cool tone.
J
Joel Hamilton
New member
I usually print a DI and a mic on the electric bass. I will decide what combination (both, just DI, just MIC) to use in the mix.
If I am tracking something for someone else to mix, I will for sure print both a DI and a mic, and maybe an alternate mic. Make sure the phase relationship referenced to the DI is good on the mic side of things, or you can wind up with a less than impressive bass sound. When you finally capture a really "focused" bass sound with a good mic, a good pre, a good DI, and a good player with a good amp: it gets easier.
I love the new neumann dynamic on bass, and I always seem to use a blue mouse, or an RE20, or a FET47, or a TLM170 "gotham."
I actually like the 4033 a lot on bass when someone has an edgier sound....
If I am tracking something for someone else to mix, I will for sure print both a DI and a mic, and maybe an alternate mic. Make sure the phase relationship referenced to the DI is good on the mic side of things, or you can wind up with a less than impressive bass sound. When you finally capture a really "focused" bass sound with a good mic, a good pre, a good DI, and a good player with a good amp: it gets easier.
I love the new neumann dynamic on bass, and I always seem to use a blue mouse, or an RE20, or a FET47, or a TLM170 "gotham."
I actually like the 4033 a lot on bass when someone has an edgier sound....
J
jaguarsg
New member
i didn't know there could be phase issues with DI and mics until my last recording. the 421 (sweet spot on cab) and the 4050 (cardioid - 4' or 5' back) were fine but the DI was like 90 degrees out of phase and sounded ... yuck.
next time, should i move the microphones more? how does one eliminate DI + mic phase problems?
next time, should i move the microphones more? how does one eliminate DI + mic phase problems?
Halion
New member
Massive Master said:
On some occasions I actually love "triple mode" with an extra condensor near the right hand of the bassplayer, to pick up some string noise. If you are working with a bass/amp setup that isn't all too clear in the hi end, but you still want a more lively sound, than the third mic could really add a more natural feel to the whole.
Be advices, it's not worth it on most productions, even with a not-so full mix, but on a solo, or just a quick impressive fill, it has worked wonders for me.
B
Bulls Hit
Well-known member
Yeah how do you get phase issues between mic & DI when close micing?
At 1 foot/mS, if the mic is 1 inch from the grill, at the most there will be a delay of 1/10000th seconds between the 2 signals. Is this enough to throw things out noticeably?
At 1 foot/mS, if the mic is 1 inch from the grill, at the most there will be a delay of 1/10000th seconds between the 2 signals. Is this enough to throw things out noticeably?
Farview
Well-known member
You will end up with a little more delay than that because the DI has a much more direct signal path. That delay will throw things off. You just have to line the tracks up in your daw.Bulls Hit said:
Dogbreath
Im an ex-spurt
Just adding a "me too" to the DI-mic'd bass. I've used my Beta 52, 57 and D112, all with pretty decent results.
my 2c......
my 2c......
scrubs
Not of sound mind
jaguarsg said:
If recording digitally, you can just zoom in on the waveforms and manually align them. Otherwise, you'll just have to mess with different miking distances.
A
Adam P
Well-known member
You could also invest in a Little Labs IBP or IBP Jr, or use a digital delay to delay the DI signal the appropriate amount of time, if you can determine it.
D
deafsound
New member
There's nothing you can't mic with a 57.RedFrogAudio said:
H
Hi_Flyer
New member
can anybody recommend a DI box? I usually use a line out or direct out from the amp... but when you guys say you record "DI" that really means that you're using a signal directly from the instrument, correct?
can somebody clear this up for me?
thanks.
can somebody clear this up for me?
thanks.
M
mjau
New member
Another vote for dual mode. Just recorded a P-Bass through an SWR workingman's 15, using the direct out on the SWR through a Toft with some mids pushed blended with an Audix D6 on th cab through an old Altec. Pretty killer bass sound if I do say so myself.
scrubs
Not of sound mind
Hi_Flyer said:
In my understanding, to DI a bass, you need some sort of preamp to convert the instrument level signal to a line-level signal and you need to convert the high impedance of the instrument to a lower impedance signal. A preamp with a DI section accomplishes both. A DI box alone only takes care of the impedance, but does not amplify the signal. Personally, I use the Groove Tubes Brick for most DI/preamp duties, as it sounds sweet on bass.
Using the line-out from your amp is fine as long as it sounds good to you.
Similar threads
