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rynomig
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could i use my art mp mic preamp to record bass directly to sound card or through mixer?...in other words without an actual bass amp?
Sweetnighter
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although i'm a recording newbie myself, i actually posted this same question now a week ago. basically, recording through a direct box is the way to go... you can record by micing an amp, but the acoustics become problematic... its easy to get a really dead sound and have issues the bass' midrange. I got a behringer direct box for $30 to record direct and its great. as for recording direct through a preamp i don't know, but it probably depends on the preamp. that would be my guess. hope i've been of some help!
Cyrokk
Farce of Nature
The answer is yes, you can plug your bass directly into your art mp, and have the output go straight to the mixer or soundcard. In certain instances, some professionals have even preferred this method.
And I recommend going straight to the soundcard. The shorter the process chain, the less the noise.
And I recommend going straight to the soundcard. The shorter the process chain, the less the noise.
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rynomig
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thanks guys!
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Fusioninspace
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I use the exact same method you suggested to record my bass for several years now. It's worked the best for me over other attempts.
Bass > ART MP > Korg DAW
Bass > ART MP > Korg DAW
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spectrescape
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Mix Magazine
This topic reminds me of an article I read in Mix Magazine last August about bass recording. It seems, as stated above, that a lot of pros are doing the direct recording thing for bass. I've included the article below.
http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_lowdown_bass_recording/
Enjoy.
PS - I record direct through a Line6 BassPOD.
This topic reminds me of an article I read in Mix Magazine last August about bass recording. It seems, as stated above, that a lot of pros are doing the direct recording thing for bass. I've included the article below.
http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_lowdown_bass_recording/
Enjoy.
PS - I record direct through a Line6 BassPOD.
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Very informative. They discuss direct boxes and mic'ing the amp. And even list which mics they use and how to isolate the amp. Very cool tricks there.spectrescape said:
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spectrescape
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Rokket said:
Yeah, I thought that article was extremely helpful. Everyone on these forums should subscribe to Mix (IMHO) - I've found it a great resource.
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EVT
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Mixing bass has always been difficult to mix in with the other instruments. There are many things I had to learn to help. Some are...
Passive instruments... fender p basses/j basses... sit nicely in a mix, and are much easier to mix, than...
active basses.... i had a lot of trouble mixing with active basses, they were cuttting through the mix too much, or making things muddy because of their hifi electronics...
Using compression also helps a lot.
And, subtractive eq'ng... for ex. I would take away some low end eq off of a guitar (or whichever other track) to allow the bass to fill the space in that frequency range.
When I read the following article, I was able to relate to it, because it talked about the same things that I have experienced with mixing bass.
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/C05204C8DC2968B78625665000797D4D
evt
Passive instruments... fender p basses/j basses... sit nicely in a mix, and are much easier to mix, than...
active basses.... i had a lot of trouble mixing with active basses, they were cuttting through the mix too much, or making things muddy because of their hifi electronics...
Using compression also helps a lot.
And, subtractive eq'ng... for ex. I would take away some low end eq off of a guitar (or whichever other track) to allow the bass to fill the space in that frequency range.
When I read the following article, I was able to relate to it, because it talked about the same things that I have experienced with mixing bass.
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/C05204C8DC2968B78625665000797D4D
evt
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Great article! I've never had a problem with active basses (my ESP is active), mainly because I am recording into an MR-8 with really weak pre amps, so the active pickups actually help me out. I DI it straight in, and I love it's tone.EVT said:
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Wow, did he say to mic electric bass strings? I've never in my wildest dreams would have thought of that. Unless I am missing something. I thought for a minute I missed the part of it being an upright, so I reread it.
Learn something new every day...
Learn something new every day...
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EVT
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Hi,
Also, after recording direct, I have also been reamping the bass with a radial passive direct box and mic'ng up an amp with an sm57 powered by the safesound p1, and mixing a little bid in with the direct track so there is some air, and added depth. It has helped the overall sound a lot. I'm really liking the idea of reamping a lot!
We recently put up our bands website... "Corrientes" and I added a section on the website about the production. On this section, I wrote about the different techniques I've been using during recording. I explain the bass recording here too. It's all excellent info. that has helped our recordings bigtime, and it has been learned mainly from this forum. :0) Always more to learn each day though...
evt
Also, after recording direct, I have also been reamping the bass with a radial passive direct box and mic'ng up an amp with an sm57 powered by the safesound p1, and mixing a little bid in with the direct track so there is some air, and added depth. It has helped the overall sound a lot. I'm really liking the idea of reamping a lot!
We recently put up our bands website... "Corrientes" and I added a section on the website about the production. On this section, I wrote about the different techniques I've been using during recording. I explain the bass recording here too. It's all excellent info. that has helped our recordings bigtime, and it has been learned mainly from this forum. :0) Always more to learn each day though...
evt
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
I've read a lot about reamping to help give DI'd tracks a bit more life by adding the room into the equation. Unfortunately for me, that's not viable because my mic selection is pretty much nil, and I don't have a bass amp anymore. I've been having a lot of luck DI'ing the bass, and sometimes doubling it the software and adding a 10ms delay, with panning at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock. My next big purchase is going to be a Gallien-Krueger stack...EVT said:
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EVT
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Hi...I am actually reamping into a fender blues jr. guitar amp, and it sounds good when being mixed with the other direct track. I have even reamped and used a condensor to mic my tannoy reveal monitors. I experiment with the placement till I get something I like. Right now I'm usually just using an sm57 on the blues jr. amp powering the mic with the safesound p1.
But, as I get better at this, I willl add another mic (a condensor mic).. to do :
http://www.homerecordingconnection.com/news.php?action=view_story&id=140
I've tried it, but since I am new to the reamping/mic'ng amps etc. I thought I needed to get the best sound first with using just one mic.
I found a lot of cool photos of mic'd amps here:
http://www.royerlabs.com/RH_devildriver.html
evt
But, as I get better at this, I willl add another mic (a condensor mic).. to do :
http://www.homerecordingconnection.com/news.php?action=view_story&id=140
I've tried it, but since I am new to the reamping/mic'ng amps etc. I thought I needed to get the best sound first with using just one mic.
I found a lot of cool photos of mic'd amps here:
http://www.royerlabs.com/RH_devildriver.html
evt
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
EVT said:
Interesting view of mic placement. I was always told that you place the second mic a few feet back. Looks like that's not the case in this pic:
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EVT
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I guess depending on the mic being used, and what is being used to power it. I think the mic needs to be moved around till you find the spot that you like. Once you find it again, and again... a few times, and like the results you get , it will become easier to do. Practice makes perfect. Right now I'm finding it easier for me to set up the sm57.
I'm not sure about the difference in mic placement between a condensor, or a ribbon mics, in terms of mic'ng amps. The ribbon mic I wish I could get http://www.frontendaudio.com/AEA R84.htm
Doesn't use phantom power, but I'm not sure if ribbon mic's never use phantom power, or just some of them don't. I wonder if this would be a reason for varying placement. Although the mic in the photo you posted is a condensor, but in the other link I posted I believe these are mostly, if not all ribbon mic's. If you surf around here, there are many cool photos.
http://www.royerlabs.com/RH_devildriver.html
evt
I'm not sure about the difference in mic placement between a condensor, or a ribbon mics, in terms of mic'ng amps. The ribbon mic I wish I could get http://www.frontendaudio.com/AEA R84.htm
Doesn't use phantom power, but I'm not sure if ribbon mic's never use phantom power, or just some of them don't. I wonder if this would be a reason for varying placement. Although the mic in the photo you posted is a condensor, but in the other link I posted I believe these are mostly, if not all ribbon mic's. If you surf around here, there are many cool photos.
http://www.royerlabs.com/RH_devildriver.html
evt
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
EVT said:
Like you said, it's all about getting the sound you want. I have a Roland keyboard amp that has no effects or anything on it, and only a 2 band eq. I may try to reamp my bass through that and see what it does. I played through it live once with a digitech bass processor that sounded decent...
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Thanks! See, you are never too old to learn something new!ez_willis said:
