recording bass

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Hmm.

Bruce


You were referring to Home recording when you made the comment Jake responded to. Except in a few circumstances most Home Reccers don't have to worry overmuch about clients
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Unless they've got a top-notch bass amp and bass, plus a good room to be able to mic it up in, for most home-rec'cers, I think they'll get better results with a DI....

See!
 
off the top rope!

one of the safest routes to take in this forum is to start each post with "in my opinion" when you say what normal is....the guy next to you that, by your standards, isnt doing what normal people do will jump on ya and then we have a 100+ posting with 80 of them being arguments....now lets all gather around the bass guitar and sing kumbayah
 
Mark7 said:
Hmm.

Bruce


You were referring to Home recording when you made the comment Jake responded to. Except in a few circumstances most Home Reccers don't have to worry overmuch about clients
My comment was based on the fact that many of my clients ARE home recorders who come to the studio because they aren't able to get good sound at home.... and when I see the gear they bring in, I start to see why they weren't able to make it work.

That situation is not unique to Ottawa, which is why I suggested that most home-rec'cers WILL get more satisfactory results with DI than amp'ing up a amp in a bad room.

So Jake's comment of "this is a false premise" is silly thing to say when I've already qualified my opinion.
 
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i guess try them both togeahteR?

so it sounds like doing the DI and the Micing of the bass amp is the best way to go? (ill be using a AKG D112 mic... is that a good idea?) also... what is a DI? and how much will a nice one run me? Im looking for a nice thick sound (like coheed and cambria type stuff if youve heard) with this DI thing.. will i still run it through the DI, the mixing board i have then into the 8 track? or just straight into the DI then into the 8 track?

by the way, ive heard micing bass amps sound pretty bad. so if it doesnt work for me to well ill do the DI thing by itself i suppose... anymore help would be appreciated

thanks!
 
i guess try them both togeahteR?

so it sounds like doing the DI and the Micing of the bass amp is the best way to go? (ill be using a AKG D112 mic... is that a good idea?) also... what is a DI? and how much will a nice one run me? Im looking for a nice thick sound (like coheed and cambria type stuff if youve heard) with this DI thing.. will i still run it through the DI, the mixing board i have then into the 8 track? or just straight into the DI then into the 8 track?

by the way, ive heard micing bass amps sound pretty bad. so if it doesnt work for me to well ill do the DI thing by itself i suppose... anymore help would be appreciated

thanks!
 
i guess try them both togeahteR?

so it sounds like doing the DI and the Micing of the bass amp is the best way to go? (ill be using a AKG D112 mic... is that a good idea?) also... what is a DI? and how much will a nice one run me? Im looking for a nice thick sound (like coheed and cambria type stuff if youve heard) with this DI thing.. will i still run it through the DI, the mixing board i have then into the 8 track? or just straight into the DI then into the 8 track?

by the way, ive heard micing bass amps sound pretty bad. so if it doesnt work for me to well ill do the DI thing by itself i suppose... anymore help would be appreciated

thanks!
 
I've been recording my bass tracks with the J-station as of late, and I've had great results for the price. You just really have to sit down with the editing software and work with it until a patch sounds good. For someone who can't spend a ton of money, I think it's worth the 99$.
 
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thanks, yeah but like... what is a DI? i have no idea what it is/does and would i run through my mixing board still? or right into the digi recorder?
 
http://www.radialeng.com/dis.htm

A DI is essentially an impedance matching device that allows you to connect your high-impdance guitar output into the low-impedance mic input of a preamp.

If your mic preamp has a HiZ input, you don't need a DI box though....
 
Yo Mikeeley! What kind of 8 tracker are you using? Most standalones have a high-Z (guitar) input, which is essentially a DI box. The sound quality isn't necessarily that hot, like the preamps in most standalones, but it beats the hell out of nothing. These days, I would be more likely to get a preamp with high-Z inputs than a pure DI box, because you can use the preamp for more things, like that D112 on the cab into channel A, and a direct Bass line into channel B, for instance. For DI, I have used Joemeek twinQcs, a dual channel strip (a mic preamp with EQ and compression), M-Audio DMP3, (a cheap, versatile preamp, maybe just what you need), Avalon AD2022 (wicked expensive preamp to die for), and POD Pro (an amp modeler that's also a DI box). I'm not a fan of the POD for bass, although there is a bass POD, which would, no doubt, be a big improvement.
For pure DI boxes, many people like the Sansamp, Countryman. I still think the best DI bang-for-buck is the Avalon U5 for about $500. That sounds expensive, but for an Avalon, it's cheap as hell.-Richie
 
Bass woes

As a newbie I am SO glad to hear theres others who mic the bass for home recordings. I have an OLD Fostex 280 and a few 58's in a soundproofed room and am getting pretty good results.
What a great forum this is for tips and suggestions!

Peace -<
 
Recording Bass

When recording bass I rarely go DI. I use an SM 57 and a Beta 52 and double track. I record mostly Pop Punk stuff and this works very well with acheiving the desired tonal qualities. I go into a mixer board and set the gain to the maximum without clipping. I then adjust the slider on the board to bring the input level to the software to about -6dB. Of course using a good bass amp with this process is key. I record using an Ampeg 8 X 10 cab and an Ampeg 410 head.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Unless they've got a top-notch bass amp and bass, plus a good room to be able to mic it up in, for most home-rec'cers, I think they'll get better results with a DI....
Add to that a nice mic and a nice pre.

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